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The problem is which media do you go to that won't twist things around? CBC ?? No way. CTV?? Nope. Maybe something like Youtube might be best?


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Andrew Leslie might be the spoiler in the Norman story. He was recruited as a star candidate in 2015 but evidently they neglected to mention that there wouldn't be any middle aged white males from Ontario in Cabinet. Keep an eye on him - Jane Philpott was a surprise in the JWR affair - Leslie could be equally damaging in the Norman tale.


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I was watching the news tonight, and got wondering, is there not usually someone behind the scenes that tells a party when it's time to switch leaders? Usually it seems when a party has a bad leader or is in need of a change, there is suggestions within the party that says it's time for a change. Has the entire Liberal party got their heads so far up their a$$es that they honestly don't see what's going on? I can't remember a time when a party has gone from a majority to falling so far down they will be lucky to come in third. Wouldn't it be something if they lost so many seats they no longer had official party status!!!???

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Won’t happen. Quebec still loves him
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is there not usually someone behind the scenes that tells a party when it's time to switch leaders?
There are parties inside parties, especially at the federal level. The political parties in Canada (all of them) have worked hard to transfer power to the party leaders over the last decades which fractions the parties. Thirty years ago the prime minister was still more the primary minister than some dark overlord with way too much power. There will for sure be fighting inside the party right now with team Trudeau battling it out with team whoever is looking for his job. If you ever get to look under the curtain into the parties you will see something that closely resembles a large group of grade eight girls fighting over the quarterback.


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I can't remember a time when a party has gone from a majority to falling so far down they will be lucky to come in third.
The conservatives did it when Mulrony left and handed the reigns to Kim Cambell. After that election the PC's had caucus meetings in a phone booth.
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Norman doesn't need to court the media to tell his story, the big news organizations are beating down his door to get his story and put it on teevee. It's all about entertainment and selling advertising, right? Ok, maybe it is taking the CBC a few days to put out their bombshell news segment and broadcast around the nation as to what happened to Norman with Norman being interviewed. Right down to key people telling witnesses what they can and can't say. Because that is why you have witnesses at a trial, they are there to tell the truth and facts based on what the witness knows - BUT the witness must also check those things against what government officials first gave the witness instructions on. This is what Norman's lawyer is hot on. Guess what, telling a witness what to say is rather illegal, it kind of defeats the whole point of a witness. Unless of course all you are doing is hosting a Puppet show and so this kind of thing is 100% normal. But in a system where the government serves the citizens the RCMP should be visiting a few people. And we are sure the CBC will be all over that too.
There is a lot going on in the Norman case. But it won't be on the teevee.

As for JT leadership, well our elected MP's are the citizens voice and amongst themselves they get together to elect their leader. So it is all very curious that the Liberal body of MP's has not yet had a single voice saying maybe we should consider a new leader in charge for October. It almost seems like JT is the boss and the MP's serve at his whim vs how it actually works in a democracy.
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The Norman case is bringing forward a lot of interesting things. Sounds like the RCMP did a piss poor job of investigating - it actually seems more like low level investigators were given tasks that were not really relevant to the case at hand and therefore the RCMP investigation was not really run properly based on high level direction. One thing noted was the RCMP never actually interviewed Norman. Interesting if true. And Trudeau publicly stating Norman will be arrested and charged even before an investigation starts. How can the PM be so sure of facts that are then proven false. Yeah, I know JT is a moron but suppose it is more than that. Suppose JT knew there was a plan to railroad Norman but what JT didn't know is the plan would be disrupted.

Also of note is the Privy Council Office involved. Who are they? Well, these people create government policy and help government decide what to do and how. Things like immigration, aboriginal affairs, etc. This is how you get consistent government policy no matter who is elected. Because this is very important when electing people to shape a countries government - the first order of business is the elected members get on board with what the PCO says are important policies.

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In 2019–20, the Privy Council will continue to support the Prime Minister and Cabinet in advancing Government priorities by:

Providing non-partisan advice to the Prime Minister, portfolio ministers, Cabinet and Cabinet committees on matters of national and international importance.

PCO will work with other federal departments to develop social and economic policies that will continue to grow a strong middle class, modernize international trade agreements, fight climate change and protect the environment, and address increased pressures on the immigration system.

PCO will work with other federal departments and international partners to develop foreign policy advice and support the Prime Minister’s international engagements to advance Canada’s global interests.

PCO will provide advice to the Prime Minister and to the Minister of Intergovernmental and Northern Affairs and Internal Trade on relationships with provincial and territorial governments to advance the Government of Canada’s priorities. This will include providing advice on reducing barriers to trade between provinces and territories.


It's important to have consistent advice and policy no matter who is elected to create and implement these things.
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Sanity returns. Who knew those useless senators would turn out to be good for something after all.

Senate committee recommends not proceeding with controversial tanker ban bill

The Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications has recommended not to proceed with a controversial bill aimed at limiting tanker traffic along the B.C. coast, according to an Alberta senator.
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You should know your govt is run by an incompetent evil cabal. Here is the Norman story from his own mouth or at least what he can say by law. He is still gagged.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi..._autoplay=true
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You should know your govt is run by an incompetent evil cabal. Here is the Norman story from his own mouth or at least what he can say by law. He is still gagged.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi..._autoplay=true
From the article it says that the estimate of this dog and pony show could be as high as $15 million. Holy balls, all so Trudeau could get his pound of flesh? Yikes

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