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post #241 of 396 (permalink) Old 04-13-2018, 09:48 AM
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You would not think he would be out and about if they were considering a charge like that

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I bet when the police go to lay charges on him that they will find he is no longer living in Canada.


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Why would an investigation take months? That makes no sense. Interview some of the passengers on the bus for immediate information, charge and release the guy on bail pending the rest of the investigation. Should be some charges against the company as well. That would help keep him in the country.

There has to be some repercussions for this. It was no mere accident.
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I bet when the police go to lay charges on him that they will find he is no longer living in Canada.
That was the first thing I thought of when it was said he was released and if he had not actually been a real Canadian and had an alternative country to disappear back to. I just find it odd in a case like this that they didn't continue to hold him, is that not legal or they didn't have proof to hold him or is he wearing a monitor, who knows.
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FWIW, having coffee with a friend yesterday and this subject came up. He said that he was familiar with that intersection and blew through that same stop sign while pulling a swather home. Said that it is a lousy intersection in that the stop sign is a small one, the "flashing light" is also small and amber, not red, no signs leading up to the intersection (stop ahead) and no rumble strips. In his experience it is quite easy to miss. I'm not familiar with that particular intersection but I do know that when I am travelling on a highway for an hour or so and then there is a stop sign, seemingly in the middle of nowhere, they can sneek up on you and I have had a few times when I have had to apply the brakes harder that I would like when they seem to just "appear". Personally, unless the driver was texting or otherwise distracted, accidents happen. We are ALL human and one thing we ALL have in common is that we ALL make mistakes. Some make mistakes that have minor/no implications and some make mistakes that have major implications. The bus crash was only a few seconds from being the former.
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Why would an investigation take months? That makes no sense.
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Interview some of the passengers on the bus for immediate information,
Looking at the scene, i suspect that all of the survivours were at the back of the bus and unlikely that any of them saw anything.
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charge and release the guy on bail pending the rest of the investigation.
Charge him with what?. The investigation into the cause is still ongoing.
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Should be some charges against the company as well.
Why should the company be charged????. I doubt that company policy is to ignore stop signs.

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There has to be some repercussions for this. It was no mere accident.
I don't understand, what constitutes a "mere" accident and what is a "mere" accident opposed to??.
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It is a big stop sign at that corner with a sign warning you of a stop sign ahead. Along with a flashing light.

I hear they are putting rumble strips at the intersection.

Yes you can blow through it if your not familiar with it and not paying attention to signage along the way.
Doesn’t matter what they do if your not paying attention it’s not going to help.
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Now this was the stumper, there is more of These drivers doing more than just driving, some have been reported being paid doing phone soliciting as well when driving.. And mindset is not on driving like it should be... I'm not indicating this was the cause, but has been caught recently before by these new drivers

I Do a fair amount of driving on trans Canada threw the winters going sledding in BC and also drive super bs last 25 years, it has blown me away more than a few times how fast some of these new turbine truckers are going, it's like they are clueless, are just don't take the value of life the same, the wrecks I have seen the last few years on that Rd and talking with others in the feild, It always seams to be the same answer


B train trucking takes a long time to be a professional, to see a month old trucker left on his own, just does not seam right, I know how long it took me just to dial in shifting and know your gears/ranges it's almost overwhelming, this driver had to be so far over his head it would be almost scary to see drive.. He could not have no clue of what he was operating.. My two cents
I worked for a construction company in Edmonton and a guy I work with told me that when the gravel pile was being replenished the gravel trucking company would have 1 guy there that knew how to back up a trailer......... that's all he did all day was alleviate all the other drivers from having to back themselves up...... good for thought.
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I worked for a construction company in Edmonton and a guy I work with told me that when the gravel pile was being replenished the gravel trucking company would have 1 guy there that knew how to back up a trailer......... that's all he did all day was alleviate all the other drivers from having to back themselves up...... good for thought.
There's a shortage of skilled workers all across the west. Companies are being forced to either pay up to get the skill or hire inexperience and train them up, or shut the doors....


Yea, it's been like this for over 10 years now..... welcome to the '2010's.

it aint the '90's where you had 20 people fighting for the same job, more like now 10 companies fighting for the same employee.
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And legalizing drugs will make this even worsefrom an employers perspective

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