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I was going to say 7510 deere
It's not easy replacing a 4020, they sure are hard to beat.
4450 was a really good tractor too but IMO probably a little easier getting in and out of a 00 or 10 series

Seen 3000 series tractors were mentioned, run, run away from them things, engines were fabulous but thirsty for fuel and everything else was a joke. I had a 2950 and it was absolutely without a question the worst tractor I had as far as quality goes, it was a joy to drive when it worked but a nightmare in the shop where it spent most of its time.
They were so close to a tractor, balance, weight, length, power, all of it but missed reliability and simplicity by a 100 miles!


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First choice 7410 JD have one with 6600 hrs beautiful loader tractor ,2 nd choice 125 Maxxum can be bought for 80000 grand with loader and very low hrs.

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The 4020 is the #1 tractor of all time. There is no replacement.
Pretty much bang on.
Stay away from the Mannheim tractors, they run but the maintenance costs will break you.
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Pretty much bang on.
Stay away from the Mannheim tractors, they run but the maintenance costs will break you.
Can you clarify what you mean by the Mannheim tractors? I know it's the John Deere factory in Germany, but I don't really know what models you mean. For example, the list here on the tractor data site has some such as the 4040 listed under both Mannheim and Waterloo.

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-trac...ry-sorted.html

So what do you refer to as a "Mannheim tractor"?

Is a 4040 from Waterloo okay, but a 4040 from Mannheim not okay? Are they the same?

Of course the tractor data site could be wrong. Like they have the 3380 Chamberlain model shown under Australia, but not the 4080, 4280, and 4480 that were made alongside them. So they are not perfect.
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Mannheim tractors where built in germany. Biggest pos ever made. I always said after the first time I worked on one at the dealership i know why the germans lost the war. Every boat that brought them turd over here should sunk in the ocean.
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From the few hours I’ve spent running a 4020 they are the most over rated tractor out there. I don’t get everybody’s love for them.

And we have a Mannheim built 2950 with over 12,000 hours with minimal maintenance costs.
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From the few hours Iíve spent running a 4020 they are the most over rated tractor out there. I donít get everybodyís love for them.

While I like a 4020, I would much rather have a 4320 over a 4020, but I would rather have a 4430 over a 4320, and a 4440 is a slight upgrade from a 4430, etc...
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From the few hours Iíve spent running a 4020 they are the most over rated tractor out there. I donít get everybodyís love for them.

And we have a Mannheim built 2950 with over 12,000 hours with minimal maintenance costs.
I have a 4020 with just over 3000 actual hours on it, everyone that's ever been on that tractor has been very jealous.

A 2950 with minimal maintenance costs is hardly believable to me.
I had a low hour one owner tractor and just in two years of ownership the only things I hadn't touched was the hydraulic pump and the engine.

Every other possible part failed cost a fortune and many parts were nearly impossible to get. Like front axle parts and wire harnesses. Heck, just the radiator was nearly 50% more than a 4000 series tractor.

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I have a 4020 with just over 3000 actual hours on it, everyone that's ever been on that tractor has been very jealous.
Such a great tractor it got less then 100 hours a year on it....
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[QUOTE=meskie;3334415]From the few hours Iíve spent running a 4020 they are the most over rated tractor out there. I donít get everybodyís love for them.

And we have a Mannheim built 2950 with over 12,000 hours with minimal maintenance costs.[/Q


One of the best days of my life was when they hauled us a 2290 with a loader and hauled away our 4020 and 5020. Finally a cab with a radio, heat and a/c! Nothing more important than that to a young tractor driver. Seriously, run a newer, decent loader tractor, then go climb into my uncles 4020, which is in real good shape by the way, and I just don't see how anyone can say they like or enjoy running one.

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