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Looking for a bit more modern 4020 replacement.

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So my dad is thinking it's about time to replace the 4020 he feeds cattle with every day. It's been a great tractor over the years, never given us much trouble, but it's really starting to get tired. Still runs great, but just about everything else is about due for a rebuild. Dad is getting up there in years and it's time he had something a bit more modern to protect him from the elements than that old Hiniker cab.

So I've been looking at the options. Ideally we want something about the same size and hp. 100in wheelbase and 100hp. Age wise I'm thinking 50 or 55 series. Modern enough to be more liveable, not modern enough to cost a fortune and be all computerized. It looks like a 4050, 4055, 3150, or 3155 would all be pretty decent choices.

So they are all around 100hp and 100in wheelbase. It looks like MFWD is standard on the 31XX tractors and optional on the 40XX tractors. The 31s have the 5.9 and the 40s have the 7.6. (some 4050s have 5.9) Power isn't a big concern, it just pulls a feedwagon and moves haybales. Is there much difference in fuel economy? The front wheel assist would be nice in the winter. We certainly survived just fine without it for all these years, but it would be handy. So were those early systems pretty reliable?

Any other suggestions? Really don't need anything bigger or more powerful. We have those bases covered. Just a handy 100hp rig that's easy to use daily. Any good/bad experiences with these 4 tractors would be appreciated!

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What is your budget?

Once you have mfwd you will wonder how you did without.

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Would you consider options outside of deere?
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I have never had any of the above, but I really like the 7410 I bought to replace an 806. The quad 4, foot accelerator, and more modern cab is worth the extra.
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50 or 55 series is a nice option. Might also look at the 7000 series as they are not that much more than the lower hour 50 series
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The down side of the 31's is that they are made in Europe and the clutches are better for field work than loader work. In 10000hrs we have do the clutch 3 times and the last time changed the flywheel as well. The powershift transmission in the Waterloo built tractor are more user friendly.
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Gotta agree that 50 and 55 series are great tractors but I would have a look at a 7210 or 7410 mfwd. We have a 7210 and it's been a fantastic chore tractor. I also wouldn't be without the front wheel assist. The 7000 series have a better front end on them I think but I guess u could get a jd front axle on a 55 series maybe a 50 too not sure but we have a 4450 also with a ZF front axle and it's given more trouble. Twine easily gets wrapped up and chews up the inside wheel seal.
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What is your budget?

Once you have mfwd you will wonder how you did without.
Can't stress that enough. Don't even consider, a unit without MFWD. Forward, reverse shuttle is very nice.
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We had a 3155 or 3255 (cannot remember which). It was fairly new when we had it, maybe less than 1500 hours on it when it was traded for a JD 7410. Did not have many issues with it, but when we did it was as as if the German engineers spend a lot of effort making sure that it would be a real pain to repair. I know the JD techs around here hated to work on the Mannheim tractors. They also have a dry clutch unlike the Waterloo tractors which have a wet clutch which is much better for loader work IMO.
I would recommend the 4050 or 4055, but would not rule out a 3155 depending on price and condition.
Like someone has mentioned I think you would really like something like a 7410 or 7510 with the left hand reverser option.
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The 4020 is the #1 tractor of all time. There is no replacement.

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