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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-28-2019, 04:45 PM Thread Starter
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Dial a matic platform

I am new to combines and the platforms. I purchases a John Deere 4420 combine. I also purchased a 213 flex head. Flex head is a dial-a-matic my combine does not have this feature. The plug on the combine has 3 wires to plug in but the combine has 6 pins on the plug how do I make this work. Thanks.

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Maybe this device is exactly what you need. I have no experience with the configuration.

https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=19061

On the upside, one would think this might also work to put John Deere HyraFlex headers on the new AGCO IDEAL combines, but I doubt it?

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Connie, The Dial-A Matic is a 6 wire system. Your combine should have a plug hanging on the left side of the feeder house, that is were the 213 Dial-A-Matic plugs in.
Is the combine fitted with the Dial-A-Matic ?
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Connie, If you have just a 3-wire harness on the combine, it has header height control, not dial-a-matic. Pretty much impossible to make it work on the head with this combo. If it was the other way around ( dial-a-matic on the combine and header height control on the head ) it can work. Find a salvaged combine ( any 20 series machine with dial-a-matic ) and put it on. Should be able to buy it fairly reasonable. Hope this helps.
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Connie: As noted above, your combine has the original "AHC", the three pin plug where the wires go straight to the raise/lower valves. The header has the original DAM 9 pin (6 populated). DAM is a low current switchbox on the right end of the head. I have made a few switchboxes over the years to convert this combination. Please contact Jeff at Headsight if you are interested. Its not cheap, but easier than trying to move a whole bunch of DAM stuff over to your combine (that would work too).

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Thanks for all the information. I am learning.
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You bought a small combine, so I assume you don't have hundreds of acres to combine. I have combined with a flex head without the Dial-A-Matic (DAM) working, and it worked well. You keep the head positioned manually, that means adjusting with the hydraulic lever on the steering column. You run the head in contact with the ground, the knife just above the ground.
If you combine wheat, you don't use the Dial-A Matic at all. You make your "flex" head a "fixed" head, and run your head height manualy (with the hydraulic lever on the steering column). Because you only want the grain and not all the straw through the combine. (unless you want to bale straw)
I suggest you start without Dial-A-Matic first, before spending money.
Ideal would be if an experienced operator could help you to set up the combine and help you to get going.
You did not mention were you are located, flat or hilly land, what ground, or what crop you are growing. That makes it difficult to give a good advice.
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The ground is flat. We will combine oats first. Then soy beans. We r located in West Virginia along the Ohio river.
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