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We're looking a new Anderson Hybrid X right now. Sounds like a good machine and will wrap up to 100hr.


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Well for an update we bought a Anderson Hybrid-X and it works great so far. On the flip side our 567 JD baler isn't fond of baling high moisture hay and I need some options on that. Do we add a high moisture kit or buy a silage special 568/569?? I'm also looking at options to what rakes will rake high moisture hay best. My N/H 216 I purchased last year doesn't .


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Have an Anderson wrapper also, works great. We have done barley (35-45% moisture), oats and hay silages. We also tubed some damp hay at 20-25% moisture one year because it kept raining every 3 days and would not get any drier. Came out just like it went in. We used a 535 for a few years, a 567 one yr (burnt baling straw that fall) and now have a 568 silage special with net wrap. I believe they all have the same bearings, but the silage special seems to prevent the stringy stuff from wrapping bad enough to get into the seals. The net wrap gives 2x advantage because it allows you to make bales faster (have been as quick as 50 seconds a bale average on the ground in a good barley swath, or 30 bales made in 25 minutes) but it also makes for neater bales which translates into less wrapping problems as they have fewer tails sticking out. I have started carrying a digital infrared heat guage(pistol type) to check for hot bearings every couple hours. I have saved a couple wrecks this way.
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They say we can wrap at 45-60%. Is that too high? We're wrapping rye right now and going to wrap some alfalfa then grass hay.

I'll have to see if we can find a silage special I guess. We've been wrapping everything with net this year and it's a huge time saver. I wish dad would have let us do it several years ago.

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Have an Anderson wrapper also, works great. We have done barley (35-45% moisture), oats and hay silages. We also tubed some damp hay at 20-25% moisture one year because it kept raining every 3 days and would not get any drier. Came out just like it went in. We used a 535 for a few years, a 567 one yr (burnt baling straw that fall) and now have a 568 silage special with net wrap. I believe they all have the same bearings, but the silage special seems to prevent the stringy stuff from wrapping bad enough to get into the seals. The net wrap gives 2x advantage because it allows you to make bales faster (have been as quick as 50 seconds a bale average on the ground in a good barley swath, or 30 bales made in 25 minutes) but it also makes for neater bales which translates into less wrapping problems as they have fewer tails sticking out. I have started carrying a digital infrared heat guage(pistol type) to check for hot bearings every couple hours. I have saved a couple wrecks this way.

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They say we can wrap at 45-60%. Is that too high? We're wrapping rye right now and going to wrap some alfalfa then grass hay.

I'll have to see if we can find a silage special I guess. We've been wrapping everything with net this year and it's a huge time saver. I wish dad would have let us do it several years ago.
60% is way too high especially for Alfalfa you will get mold and you`ll have some really heavy bales. 35-45% optimum for most everything.
Never used net wrap but have heard good and bad from others, faster bailing for sure but it can be a bitch if it freezes on.
Did they tell you how to test your moisture. Do not use a bale probe and think your getting an accurate reading, you have to dry it down.
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OK. No I have no idea how to properly test moisture. Dad just ordered a special tester that goes to 70% .


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60% is way too high especially for Alfalfa you will get mold and you`ll have some really heavy bales. 35-45% optimum for most everything.
Never used net wrap but have heard good and bad from others, faster bailing for sure but it can be a bitch if it freezes on.
Did they tell you how to test your moisture. Do not use a bale probe and think your getting an accurate reading, you have to dry it down.

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OK. No I have no idea how to properly test moisture. Dad just ordered a special tester that goes to 70% .
I have one of those 70% testers too, I rarely use it now however, just go by feel. If barley seeds and leaves are sticking to everything (belts and rollers) then it's too damp. I like it when we cut the barley with some green in the stems and/or the seeds are still doughy. Then allow it to 'rest' until it bales nicely, seems like a lot of awns fall off then after its sat a bit. My like under 50% preferably, and have made some barley silage in the upper 20's last year, just fed it first in the winter when the animals would eat anything other than browned off grass. Make some damp stuff and some drier stuff and you'll know which way to make it all next year should you have a choice. Cattle prefer the moister stuff, but it's too heavy IMO. You'll get a feel for it pretty quick.
I run 90% of all my feed through a Bale King 5500 with chop knives, so I'm not worried about net wrap freezing on.

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I run 90% of all my feed through a Bale King 5500 with chop knives, so I'm not worried about net wrap freezing on.
By that, I take it you feed net and all?

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We are about to wrap some peas, anyone ever done them? Only 20 ac so won't be huge wreck if it doesn't work.

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