Wrapping round bales - The Combine Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-13-2014, 07:51 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 261
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Wrapping round bales

I need some guidance/openions on wrapping round bales to make silage bales. Looking at wrappers and wanting to know if it's a good idea?


'01 Chevy Duramax 590hp,6spd manual,EFI Live tuning,590rwhp
'03 GMC Duramax Suncoast IV,EFI Live tuning
'04 Chevy Duramax 14' Hydra-Bed bale bed
EFI Live tuning
'06 Chevy Kodiak 4x4 EFI tuning and Danville turbo
'11 Chevy Duramax tuned with H&S XRT & delete
'13 Chevy Duramax stock for now
'11 Titan 40' tandem dually flatbed



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
01Duramax6spd is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-13-2014, 08:45 PM
Senior Member
 
V876's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NW Sask
Posts: 1,797
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 251 Post(s)
We have done it for a few years and it works well, it makes good feed. Works good any year but really shines when the weather isn't the best for drying. You have to be careful not to bale at too wet as you can have mold issues and bales freeze plus they get very heavy.
It is a bit labor intensive but not bad, you learn how much to cut at once so when its time to bale you can bale/haul and wrap it all in the same day.
Feed quality is good to excellent we have done alfalfa barley oats millet and some wheat. The only one of those I don't recommend is oats. the straw is too long and the cows waste lots, the rest they will clean up almost all. We unroll the bales in the field and they clean it up good almost better than in the feeders. I think the wrap cost is around $ 3/ bale depending how much wrap you put on, more is better than not enough. We use a Tubeoline wrapper fully automatic with a remote in case there is an issue you can start stop and steer it from the tractor.

V876 is offline  
post #3 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-13-2014, 11:13 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,926
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
we did it for years in the uk best bale wrapper on the market is mchale its an irish maker great stong machine
makes great feed
mark 1056 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-13-2014, 11:43 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 261
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
So how long would we need to leave alfalfa and rye lay after cutting it? Is it going to feed out next winter like it went into the bale or is it going to spoil like silage? We have some wild oats we're wanting to get rid of in the process and hoping it'd spoil like it would in a pile.

'01 Chevy Duramax 590hp,6spd manual,EFI Live tuning,590rwhp
'03 GMC Duramax Suncoast IV,EFI Live tuning
'04 Chevy Duramax 14' Hydra-Bed bale bed
EFI Live tuning
'06 Chevy Kodiak 4x4 EFI tuning and Danville turbo
'11 Chevy Duramax tuned with H&S XRT & delete
'13 Chevy Duramax stock for now
'11 Titan 40' tandem dually flatbed



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
01Duramax6spd is offline  
post #5 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-13-2014, 11:51 PM
Ken Adams
 
flatfoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: SW of Kindersley, Saskatchewan, Canada
Posts: 1,276
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Quoted: 323 Post(s)
If using standard baler you may what to watch for build-up of material on rollers. I believe there is scrapers available for some balers (from silage specials)
flatfoot is offline  
post #6 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-14-2014, 10:43 AM
Senior Member
 
V876's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NW Sask
Posts: 1,797
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 251 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 01Duramax6spd View Post
So how long would we need to leave alfalfa and rye lay after cutting it? Is it going to feed out next winter like it went into the bale or is it going to spoil like silage? We have some wild oats we're wanting to get rid of in the process and hoping it'd spoil like it would in a pile.
Yes it comes out almost the same way it went in. barley even has a sweet whiskey smell when it comes out not the pig s*** smell it get in a pit.
As for how long to wait for baling depends on a few things, how heavy a stand, how lush it is when you cut and what kind of days you have, hot/dry or cooler. Lets say you cut at 60% moisture in decent weather say 70/75 degrees it might take a day or two to wilt down to 35-40% where you want to be wrapping at better not to wrap at too high a moisture barley is more forgiving at higher moisture levels. Again it depends on a lot of factors, haybine or swather makes a difference too.
You shouldn't have any troubles baling with any hard core baler I have used JD and New Holland Just remember to make a smaller bale say maybe 40-48 in and keep your bale tension high tighter bales are better, less air less mold.
V876 is offline  
post #7 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-14-2014, 10:56 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 261
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
So baling it with with a 567 Deere baler should be fine? We're concerned about wrapping stuff on the rollers and fire???

'01 Chevy Duramax 590hp,6spd manual,EFI Live tuning,590rwhp
'03 GMC Duramax Suncoast IV,EFI Live tuning
'04 Chevy Duramax 14' Hydra-Bed bale bed
EFI Live tuning
'06 Chevy Kodiak 4x4 EFI tuning and Danville turbo
'11 Chevy Duramax tuned with H&S XRT & delete
'13 Chevy Duramax stock for now
'11 Titan 40' tandem dually flatbed



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
01Duramax6spd is offline  
post #8 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-14-2014, 11:03 AM
Senior Member
 
V876's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NW Sask
Posts: 1,797
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 251 Post(s)
That baler should work good. You will get a little build up on the rollers but usually nothing serious. We have used 530 JD 566JD and 664NH all with no problems. Never worried about wet straw catching fire. Just check the rollers once and awhile for build up.
The biggest issue I have had with build up and wrapping on rollers is baling at too high a moisture level.
V876 is offline  
post #9 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-17-2014, 10:25 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 17
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
You might also have to make your bales a little smaller when doing balage depending on your baler. With mine i have to make my bales 4x4 instead of 4x5 due to the increased weight.
MilkincowsDrivintractors is offline  
post #10 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-17-2014, 04:12 PM
Senior Member
 
Big Cob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Adolphustown, Ontario, Canada , which is on North Shore Lake Ontario
Posts: 977
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
We shoot for 25 to 35% moisture .
Depending on weather , maturity of alfalfa and thickness of windrow we typically cut in AM . bale next AM or Afternoon .
We have a guy come in with a Tubeline wrapper and it seems to work good on our 5 x 5 bales @ 2,500 lbs.
If rollers start building up on baler , clean them good , then talc the heck out of them .


Mark
Big Cob is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Combine Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome