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tc 03-26-2011 08:51 AM

macdon on a deere?
 
besides a welder,torch and grinder. What would it take to put a macdon header on a 4995 deere. deere hydro drive so a hyd motor would replace the shaft drive right? on a 972 are the new one hyd drive? Dseries. explanation: have a macdon 9352/972 want a 4995 with disc head for hay and dont need two of these machines. dont want the honeybee for my green silage acres(told the macdons are better in this heavy/wet green and my old jd 21' cut like a champ with its macdon built head). need the two machines sitting side by side or detailed drawings

tc 03-29-2011 09:36 AM

how do i move this to new fabrication site?

325mag 03-29-2011 10:31 AM

Why dont you trade the 9352 and 972 for a newer macdon with the disc mower and a d series header? No fabrication needed.

Don Boles 03-29-2011 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tc (Post 219322)
how do i move this to new fabrication site?

Done.

Don

cnh007 03-29-2011 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 325mag (Post 219332)
Why dont you trade the 9352 and 972 for a newer macdon with the disc mower and a d series header? No fabrication needed.

X2

Don Boles 03-29-2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 325mag (Post 219332)
Why dont you trade the 9352 and 972 for a newer macdon with the disc mower and a d series header? No fabrication needed.

That tends to modify the bank account though!;)

Don

325mag 03-29-2011 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Boles (Post 219340)
That tends to modify the bank account though!;)

Don

Ya it does, but he said he wants a 4995 with a disc mower. So, trading up should be easier.

tc 03-30-2011 06:00 PM

thanks don
 
have used 4995 with discbine already cheap and my macdon 9352 has higher hrs (worth? with only a 25' 972) ya i seen that macdon has the new discmounted tractor. plus a new d series header would seriously modify my bank account. the new headers are worth more then my current macdon/header and combine together. to have the higher hp 4995/discbine earn its keep the macdon sould go down the road.

Jason Hildebrand 04-02-2011 06:15 PM

It will probably be quite difficult to get the hyd to mesh. Honey bee uses the two big hyd lines and then has a series of diverter boxes to get the flow out to the knife/reel/canvas. Sure you could use the discbine motor to drive the pto but then whats left to run the reel/canvas? The arms on the 4995 vs the mounting points on a macdon are in very different locations, it would require alot of fabricating. Then theres always the issue of header tilt if you build your mounting points in too tight to the tractor then you won't get a flat enough angle to avoid picking up rocks/dirt.

If you have a good understanding of series hyd systems, electrical, & fabrication skills then go for it.

tc 04-03-2011 08:03 AM

thanks jason all helpful info. didnt know how the canvases reels and knife got their power on Honeybee. assumed the motor drove a series of pump/motor curcuits. the fine hyd details i would leave to a professional. the mounting points I knew were very different. I hoped to use the jd arms( new honeybee mounts under macdon header) but if a set of one off jd/macdon arms were needed then the switch from disc to swather would take longer but still worth it. The geometry of header angle would take some adjusting and fab. Any other differences or solutions to unseen problems.


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