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Case IH 8860 Header

Hi, I am new to this site. First time I have posted anything. We just bought a Case IH 8860 with a 16` hay head and are looking for a grain header for it as well. Does anyone know what header(s) fit on this machine. I hear that it is the same as a Hesston 8250. Does a Honey Bee or MacDon fit? Any help would be much appreciated

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8860 header

I have a caseih 21 foot double swath header in southern alberta

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Dad's 8860HP has a 36' Honey Bee header on it and 90% of the 8860 units I have ever seen had 30 or 36' HB headers on them.
I am not sure if HB still builds/sell the adapters for the lift arms?
The rest of the hydraulic stuff on the swather headers is the same as what is on the HB headers mounted on NH, JD and CaseIH units.
If I was putting a grain header on an 8860 now it would be an AGCO 5200.
Attaches directly to the 8860 power unit without any lift arm adapters and all hydraulics and wiring just plug in.
And is a lot lighter header that performs as well as the HB.
A 5200 may not last as long as a HB as those HB headers are tough!!
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Thanks for the reply. I was wondering about needing an adapter. I will check with HB and see if they still make them. Is the AGCO 5200 a fairly new header? Our 8860 is an 2001 model.
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Thanks for the reply. I was wondering about needing an adapter. I will check with HB and see if they still make them. Is the AGCO 5200 a fairly new header? Our 8860 is an 2001 model.
5200's were made up to 2014, good head imo better then a HB. An 8860 is the twin to a 8250 Hesston, witch used the 5000 draper OR early ones had the old style Hesston more mechanical head (600 series I think). I have never seen a case version with the black 5000 head, around the time the 5000 came out the Case, New Holland merger happened and the red Hesstons were no more. Don't count on a 5200 fitting on your tractor, as there were some mounting changes over the years. You would be better off looking for a 5000 head and making it work.
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I have seen 2 8860CIH/8250 Hesston units with 5200 headers on them at auctions in the past year.
We have a 2007 9240 Hesston as well that we took the 30ft 5200 header off after one year and put a 36ft 5200 on.
The 30ft will likely go on Dads 2001 8860HP this summer as the 1997 HB that is on it needs a full overhaul/rebuild.
Lift arms, hyd couplers and electrical connectors look identical between the two power units??
The adapters needed to run the HB do cause a lot of twist to the factory CaseIH/Hesston lift arms and I would add major reinforcement to the factory arms BEFORE putting the HB adapters and header on!!
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I have seen 2 8860CIH/8250 Hesston units with 5200 headers on them at auctions in the past year.
We have a 2007 9240 Hesston as well that we took the 30ft 5200 header off after one year and put a 36ft 5200 on.
The 30ft will likely go on Dads 2001 8860HP this summer as the 1997 HB that is on it needs a full overhaul/rebuild.
Lift arms, hyd couplers and electrical connectors look identical between the two power units??
The adapters needed to run the HB do cause a lot of twist to the factory CaseIH/Hesston lift arms and I would add major reinforcement to the factory arms BEFORE putting the HB adapters and header on!!
After thinking about this today, I seem to remember that the mounting issue may be more on the big disc machines. I do know that there was a kit to convert a short arm to long arm so you could pick up a draper.
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I was under my 8860 today and was looking for the hook ups for the grain header. Didn't find any. Looks like my tractor unit was set up to have only a hay head from factory. No valves or hoses for the reel height, reel speed, canvas speed and cutter bar angle. Any advice on making this all work? I did find a AGCO 5000 25' header for sale. Just not sure if the tractor unit will be able to run it.
I also checked with HB and they told me they no longer had any parts to fit their header onto my machine.

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On all the 8860's I have seen all the hyd hookups are flat face couplers on the front edge of left/drivers step, electrical connector is also there.
If you can find a pic of the middle backbone of the header you will see there are some elec/hyd valves and splitters on the header as well.
In the past I have seen 8860's that still had the drive motor for the hay header bolted to the step/handrail as well.
If I get a chance tomorrow I can take a couple pics of our 8860 with the honeybee and the Hesston with 5200.
Not sure if I can figure out how to post them here though??
So you may have to PM me your email?

I would look around more for a 5200 header as well.
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So I've been in contact with a few different people. Looks like there are 3 adapter kits that my machine doesn't have.

1. Draper Adapter kit PN K60922 worth about $3,500
2. Header Angle Kit PN K60946
3. 5000 series header adapter kit PN K61035 worth about $12,000

These parts are no longer available through CNH. I found them through Hesston. The header angle kit is not a must so I didn't price is especially after hearing the cost of the 5000 series adapter kit.

I found these parts at AGCO Parts Books.

Anyway. I don't think I am getting a draper header for my machine unless there is a cheaper option out there.

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