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Discharger beater in 9230

Good afternoon! again here consulting the experts. Has anyone replaced the straw chopper with a discharge beater on a Case ih 9230? I have the need to make this replacement to be able to more evenly cover the soil with crop residues. Any picture? Thank you.

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Why don't you just run the chopper in low speed & then install a deflector on the back of the discharge beater floor (RHS) to even up the flow of material to the centre of the spreader system?

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It’s going to cost you a small fortune.


Like Rod said, chopper in slow and dead knives down and you will get very similar lengths of straw to a beater.

I had Two flagships side by side last year making stubble Hay and you couldn’t tell the difference in the straw. One was a beater, one a chopper.

There may be a problem at the spreaders if your not getting even distribution.

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Muy interesante tu alternativa, tienes foto del deflector que habría que colocar en el piso del picador para enviar el material al fondo de la cosechadora?
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Why don't you just run the chopper in low speed & then install a deflector on the back of the discharge beater floor (RHS) to even up the flow of material to the centre of the spreader system?
Very interesting your alternative, do you have a photo of the deflector that would have to be placed on the floor of the picador to send the material to the bottom of the combine?

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Like Rod said, chopper in slow and dead knives down and you will get very similar lengths of straw to a beater.

I had Two flagships side by side last year making stubble Hay and you couldn’t tell the difference in the straw. One was a beater, one a chopper.

There may be a problem at the spreaders if your not getting even distribution.
I understand perfectly, in fact I have never seen a beater work, the logic indicated that I would leave the straw longer than a picador. As Rod says, we have done the test of using the picador at low speed but we have the disadvantage of depositing losses on the upper sieve.
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Very interesting your alternative, do you have a photo of the deflector that would have to be placed on the floor of the picador to send the material to the bottom of the combine?
I’m not sure we’re talking about the same thing ....... but here goes.
When you run the chopper in low speed, obviously you have to drop the knives down. I presume you have the front on beater floor blocked off with a bolted in plate. This covers the perforated floor area ..... after the rotor ..... before the chopper/ discharge beater....... to stop excess chaff/straw falling onto the cleaning system.

The chopper via the rotor, nearly always discharges on the RHS of the machine. It’s just a fact of life & the nature of material flow through the rotor.
To move that flow of crop material to more of the centre of the straw/chaff spreaders, install a deflector on the RHS ..... see picture.
Not sure what you mean by excess loading on the cleaning system & higher losses after disengaging the chopper.
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Rod, I understand, we here in Argentina have a picador with a greater number of blades. What we have noticed is that when using the chopper in low speed, the loss by the sifted is noticeably increased. The idea of the baffle is very good, in fact I will implement it.
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Rod, I understand, we here in Argentina have a picador with a greater number of blades. What we have noticed is that when using the chopper in low speed, the loss by the sifted is noticeably increased. The idea of the baffle is very good, in fact I will implement it.
OK ...... looks like you have the 48 blade chopper ...... that’s fine. You most likely have the perforated floor before the chopper. This is where a lot of “fines” go through to overload the cleaning system in cereals, pulses etc.
You may need to cover this section over by bolting in a cover plate or remove it & install the “solid floor”. I’d try covering it up first as it’s not a five minute job to replace it with a solid floor.
Here’s what you probably have installed.



Do you have installed top sieve rear curtains? These greatly improved the sieve capacity & efficiency.

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Yes, the perforated floor is installed, in my previous 8120 I had covered it with good results, so from what I see I should do the same in the 9230 ...
Regarding the curtains, he had never seen them, nobody knows them here. I would have a photo to see how they are installed in the combine to really realize how they are placed?
What do you think about getting some blades to my chopper to achieve less chopped straw?
Thanks for the tips!

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