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Upgrading from a 2388 to a 7088, any tips?

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#1 · (Edited)
Hello all.


Well, the title says it all. Yesterday we drove about an hour to see my dad's preferred Case IH salesman as he offered up a pretty decent trade deal on our 05' 2388 towards a 11' 7088 they took in recently.


This combine will be coming to us with a completely new rotor/concave as the previous owner ran something in it and dented the rotor and knocked one or two bar mounts off. How it didn't vibrate like crazy, I'll never know.


It also has brand new clean grain and return chains already installed. It looks like it was ordered with extended wear augers so all of those are still nice and thick.


We will be adapting our current 30' Macdon draper and our 8 row Geringhoff corn head to run with this new combine. I believe that it will have a Pro 600 monitor in it as well.


So...anyone have any tips or suggestions? How much of a learning curve are we looking at going from a 2388 to the 7088?





Thanks in advance.
 

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#2 ·
Isn't that basically the same guts inside a fancier shell and controls?

11 years ago now(seems like forever) we switched from 1688's to 7010's and I thought the transition was pretty easy. Our dealer had a pretty good product specialist that gave us some basic settings and a good walk through. The PRO600 is a very intuitive monitor and the controls are easy to learn.

My question would be how many of those machines are in the area and do they stock parts? Up here it is pretty much all flagship CaseIH combines, but your area could be different.
 
#3 ·
Good question. I know a few that are running 8/9 flagship combines, but I seem to remember one or two of the 88's around also. Our local dealers (three within an hour's drive) have almost always had a part we needed on our 2388. And ours is kinda a hybrid of a 2388/2588 as we think it was built when they were transitioning over to the 25 series. Even then, if we needed something and none of the dealers had it, they could get it to us usually by the next morning/afternoon as long as the distribution warehouse had it in stock.


From what I've been reading so far...the 7088 follows along the tried and true idea of the past designs...just beefed up a bit. Still, each generation of combine (regardless of the color) all have their quirks. That's what I'm mainly looking for, what should we be looking out for?
 
#4 ·
Nothing really. It’s just a pimped up 2388.
They can go like the clappers. Good HP
They blow black smoke which looks terrible.

Park brake issues the only thing I had go wrong in a couple of seasons. It was going run for run with the 9120, but they are nothing special.

Maybe put some Gordon bars on if you have tough wheat, otherwise it will go well as is, especially in your corn.
 
#5 ·
We rarely raise wheat, mainly just corn and soybeans. And I’m not a huge fan of rolling coal...but I’m am glad this 88 doesn’t have DEF.

I was reading about the Pro 600 and I saw that the Pro 700 allows camera inputs. As it turns out, we have a couple of cameras that should work with the 700...I just have to take them off our outgoing 2388. How much of a headache is it to upgrade from a Pro 600 to a 700?
 
#7 ·
way before you pull the plug on the Pro 700 make darn good and sure it will talk to the combine without down grading the Pro 700.. Or you just paid 5K and however much for programing to have a fancier monitor.. I have a Pro 600 in my combine, and Pro 700s in the planter/ air seeder tractors.. They are better for running the planter and drill, but from what I've seen in the neighbors combine unless you are auto steering it there is no real advantage.. When I updated air seeder tractors it came with a Pro700 from a Pro 600 that was in the last one, 3 service calls later and a task controller unlock I could finally run my drill.. ( first 2 trips the tech tried down grading the Pro 700 to a 600, and the tractor was just goofy..)
 
#8 ·
I've seen plenty of 088 combines with Pro700s in them. Just talk to your dealer tech. Not sure its going to help you much. The problem with the 088's for my end of things is the c*** cornerpost. Case tried to make a "non-language specific" control system, and basically ended up with a "Non-people obvious" control system.... Its not that hard, just keep a cheat sheet around.
 
#12 ·
If you don't want autosteer, you can use any GPS system you want really. There's an RS232 port on the underside of the Pro600 and it will take standard NMEA data for mapping. If you want autosteer you'll need a compatible trimble receiver and I suspect you'll also need a Nav controller which probably mounts on the floor on the right hand side of the cab.
 
#13 ·
What torriem said. We are using a CaseIH 372 in one machine and a 262 in the other, but if you just want mapping anything will work, you just have to select the correct input on your monitor. For plug and play though go with a CaseIH or Trimble unit so you don’t have to run any new wires, you can map without auto steer (we are). To check if your machine is auto steer ready look at the steering cylinder, if it has a plug with wires in the tube body it’s capable, if it’s just a plain hydraulic cylinder it’s not (without some upgrading).
 
#14 ·
This machine isn't auto steer ready, I asked when I was crawling all over it with a flashlight looking for any issues. Auto steer would be nice while cutting soybeans, but unless we put a row sense on our corn head, it won't really be needed.


What software are people using to view the mapping data?
 
#15 ·
Case used to offer a stripped-down version of the SMS mapping software (now owned by AgLeader). But they don't anymore. I think most people use the regular version of SMS.

Or if you don't mind trading away your privacy and giving your data to Bayer formerly Monsanto, you can use Climate Fieldview, which can use a special plug-in module on your isobus to upload your yield maps to the cloud as you go.
 
#16 ·
Yea, I was looking at Climate Fieldview earlier this year. But once I saw that it worked with isobus, that ruled it out for us at the time...as we didn't have anything with an isobus. Well, not yet anyways...maybe that'll change this Sat. :) So, I'm not against the idea of giving that data to Bayer, as I don't see where that data is anything that...important to keep secret? Maybe I'll look at it again..


As for the GPS receiver...would a Case IH AFS162 receiver work with the Pro 600 for yield mapping?
 
#17 · (Edited)
See BrianTee's topic about Bayer announcing customized chemical prices based on your farm's data... Clearly Bayer sees some significant profit in having our data. Which makes me think Bayer should be paying us to use Climate Fieldview, not the other way around.

I assume the AFS162 should do it, but you'll have to configure it somehow. I'm not familiar with that model, but most Trimble units can be configured using some software called "AgRemote" to set things like NMEA output. You'd also probably need to wire up or buy a cable that plugs into the AFS162 and has a 9 d-sub connector on one end.
 
#19 ·
I’m not sure how much data they would get from me as I’m just interested in the yield map. I wouldn’t be inputting other details such as seed used, chemicals, fertilizer, etc. Or I’d just make it up if it was required. ;)

I’ll have to talk a bit with the dealership’s GPS guru whenever I go to make the switch. :)
 
#20 ·
I’m using SMS basic for my mapping, it has a pretty steep learning curve and isn’t super user friendly, but once everything is set up it’s not too bad to add fields to your memory card for a harvest or planting session etc that way when you read the data after harvest it automatically goes to the correct place. I also have field view since they had a free 1 year trial for new users, I haven’t used any of the cloud mapping portion but I do use their satellite imagery to do some scouting which is handy.
 
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