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Hat tractor at agwest steers like a school bus defenatly not a fendt 1050 hat can turn on a dime as i was told
Doesn't turn very good eh?

Cart, harrows, floater, protill type tillage, front 3 point and mount blade for snow, there ya go, justified !

Not sure it would do any better than a articulated 4wd though, but .... it’s cool.

Swman, would you pull the disc drill with it ? Or more for spreading etc ?
I probably would pull drill, grain cart, maybe fall banding. I would want a 3pt if I were to use spin spreader on it and some planters need a 3pt. Just don't get why it wouldn't be on there, kind of like a PTO these days on a big tractor. Lots of guys wouldn't need it but I kind of do unless I were to change my spreader.
 

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So are the Challenger and Fendt's not identical? Why would the Fendt turn sharper?
They are identical. Maybe the steering stops were not adjusted properly?

I toured the AGCO plant in Jackson MN a couple weeks ago and they were building some of the new 700 series tracked unit and putting Fendt hoods on them and shipping to Europe. All same but for the color and probably some lighting and other options due to road travel rules.
 

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So are the Challenger and Fendt's not identical? Why would the Fendt turn sharper?
As far as I know they are identical outside of colour scheme.

For us we just wanted a bigger front wheel assist for the versatility but was only after a 936 but when we priced them out they were trying to push the 1000 series into the market and the price wasn’t that much more while getting a tractor that should be able to do way more in the long haul. When I buy a piece of equipment I expect it to be around for a long time, particularly tractors, so I took that into consideration. Currently I don’t think we are using this tractor to it’s full potential but it’s doing everything we wanted while giving us a lot of flexibility going forward. And something tells me these tractors are gonna hold their value pretty **** good.

Also I couldn’t imagine getting one without a 3pt, even if you aren’t using it right now. Easily will pay itself in resale because it’s a key to what makes the tractor so intriguing... versatility. I currently only use the 3pt for a Kuhn spreader but there’s a lot more applications that the 3pt will open the tractor up to.

Btj, I have 710r42 vf trellborg duals in the rears and I think 650 on the front. There is a bigger rubber option of 750r46 that I wished I had ordered but hopefully what I have does the job.
 

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The local dealer here has really been pushing demos in the last year. I have a friend that demoed the 380, he said it did everything his JD9520 did. His only "complaint" if you will, is that the tractor runs so quiet you heard the scrapers rubbing on the discs. Seldom ever revs over 1400 rpm.

Have a customer that demoed the same tractor. They unhooked their JD8360r from a 13 shank Krause Dominator, and hooked up the 380. The Deere would pull it around 5mph, and the AGCO was around 3.5-4mph. The big difference was the wings had to be folded up behind the Deere to pull it, wings were down and the wheels all the way up behind the AGCO. I asked them if they would buy one, they said "no, they've all spent to much time in JD cab to sit in anything else now"

Both farms said they were surprised at the inability to induce a power hop, at all. Apparently the dual transmission set up performs very well at puting the HP where it needs to go.

Supposedly, AGCO is now working on a front tank mount bracket so you could just drop off the front weight and pick up the tanks. When I was asked how many gallons of capacity I would need, I told them 1,000 gal at around 12 #s p/gal. I was told that shouldn't be a problem, curious to see what they come up with.
 

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I can imagine running high speed disc, disc drill, grain cart, planter.
But ffs sakes guys a $450k tractor on a snowplow or snowblower?? I know you wanna get done fast but a $50k kabota or used jd tractor will do that, maybe a bit slower but still, everybody talks about efficiency and cutting cost, running 450k tractor in winter isnt on that list, just my 2 cents
 

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I can imagine running high speed disc, disc drill, grain cart, planter.
But ffs sakes guys a $450k tractor on a snowplow or snowblower?? I know you wanna get done fast but a $50k kabota or used jd tractor will do that, maybe a bit slower but still, everybody talks about efficiency and cutting cost, running 450k tractor in winter isnt on that list, just my 2 cents
I used to think that way also, but if you use anything but climate controlled storage it will likely last longer if you use it more frequently. Corrosion is deadly on internal parts that constantly go through freezing thawing cycles and being stuck in a shed for better than half its life. and I wouldn’t dought more so on this high tech stuff.
 

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I know our high houred semi’s break down less if they used regularly. If they sit for a month it never fails we are fixing something before we use them.

Hear the same argument about using a big new tractor on grain cart, I think if it works for your farm why not, its sitting there depreciating anyway.
 

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I can imagine running high speed disc, disc drill, grain cart, planter.
But ffs sakes guys a $450k tractor on a snowplow or snowblower?? I know you wanna get done fast but a $50k kabota or used jd tractor will do that, maybe a bit slower but still, everybody talks about efficiency and cutting cost, running 450k tractor in winter isnt on that list, just my 2 cents
If I could run a farm using a single tractor for every job, I would. To me that would be the most efficient use of the investment.

As it stands, our big tractor only runs the drill and sits the rest of the year. It will last us a long time, but that’s a lot of depreciation while not being used.
 

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I thought the Challengers had a little different lay out in the cab, like a different joystick and maybe some of the other functions weren't as 'complete' as the Fendt.

$450k tractor on a snowplow or snowblower?? I know you wanna get done fast
How long to snowblow about 1100 acres? This winter bit is starting to get a little ridiculous. I don't mind the first 5 months of winter, by the time the 6th month rolls around, I'm getting a little tired of it, but were into the 7th month and I'm thinking winter can frigg right the heck off.
 

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I thought the Challengers had a little different lay out in the cab, like a different joystick and maybe some of the other functions weren't as 'complete' as the Fendt.
I think now they share same cab joystick and computer as the rest of tractors and combines including Fendt. Fendt has on the go tire inflation deflation and maybe some other options.
 
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