Absolutely don't buy it without demoing it. In my opinion the 2200 series heads are garbage. My dealer picked up the Geringhoff line since they have had so much trouble with the 22/2400 heads... in fact they almost won't sell them. The problem guys around here have with them is that they take in way to much trash.
My neighbor had so much trouble with his 2208 that Case gave him a great deal to get a new one for this season... it still doesn't work worth crap.
We ran his 06' 2208 on a 05' 2388 with AFX rotor along side my 06' 8 row Geringhoff (northstar non chopping) on my 00' 2388 with specialty rotor.
the 2208 could only run about 3-3.3mph and couldn't see any ears going into the combine through all the trash it was taking in.
I was running 5-5.5mph and taking in almost only ears.
The corn was running around 200bu at 22% We did this so our dealer could see the difference in the heads and get someone higher from CNH to come out and watch as well.
Are the new case corn heads really that bad? I have a 1989 1083 on our 1997 2188 thinking of going to a new 12 row when we either get a new 8010 or 7010. Would a folding 12 row geringhoff be better instead?
To answer your question Big A... Yes they are junk. We wanted to update corn heads this year and absolutely refused to buy a 2208. Our dealer didn't even try to sell us one. We bought a 8row non chopping geringhoff instead and we love it. Its very well made and does an excellent job!
We talked to several guys in red shirts at the Farm Progress show and they admit that the head doesn't work very well. We talked to some Kelly guy who is in charge of getting the "ploch head" (case had one there called the 2600 with lawn mower style choppers) from Poland to the US market. He really didn't want to tell us very much but he did say they have a new corn head in the works. I would guess it would be the head they were working on before NH made em pigeon hole it for there head.
Long story short... the 2200/2400 series heads are junk and Case knows it.
I wouldn't say they are "junk".......... Ours works fine, just doesn't chop the stalks up like the old ones do. Only have used it last year. Our stalks were well mature, so maybe thats why we had no trouble. As for reliability, well, my New Holland buddy has been using his trouble free for quite some time. Not sure, but I can't see much difference from a jd head.
To bad they gave up the stalk roll that had the fixed bearing or bushing in the front of the stalk roll. Seemed to chop the crop up real good. But I'm only a mech so let the cornhead go to the MFG standard. Everyone is the same now. To bad they let a good thing go. No DEPT heads may not have run a combine, but they KNOW all when designing everything. SORRY. Degusted.
Holy cow, I never realized so many people hated the 2200 series heads. I personally got along GREAT with ours. It would chew the stalks up like powder and never missed an ear. I had 500 acres of corn flat on the ground from a windstorm in '05, and that head was a life saver. Everyone else in the country was running around trying to find a corn reel while I was shelling corn and geting along fine with the 2388 and 2208 head. The one and only problem I had with it was when I rammed a hedge post into the LH row unit opening up an 80 that was so flattened you could have seen a rabbit run across the entire field. That mishap split the row unit gear box in half and ruined the row unit frame. After a trip to J.J. Nichting's in Pilot Grove, IA I was running again by noon the next day.
Here is a couple pics from some of the better standing corn we had...
Here are a few pics of what happens when you try to shell a hedge post.
We used to have a 2206 on a 2166 as well, and it was a good head as well.
After running a 893 on the 9760 this year, I decided that the CIH head was the better unit, but the machine pushin' it was about 2000% better this year.
One of my customers is running the 2612 30" chopping corn head on his 8010 this year. It is built alot like a 1000 series head as it has the same style knife on the snapping rollers and the rollers are supported on the lower end with a bearing support. The gathering chains are more heavy duty also. So far, we are really pleased with the way this head is working in extreme down corn to good standing corn. It doesn't take in near the trash as the 22/2400 hdrs unless you have the stripper plates too narrow. We did put hyd driven roller cones on the outer dividers to stop the hairpinning on the ends.
I don't know what or when the new model of heads will come out. There are a handful of these chopping heads in the country in various row configurations to see how they perform over here. Also remember that the production head may be somewhat different than the 2612 we have now. I am sure that whatever they come out with will be available in a non chopping version also. They aren't for everyone.
I like the 2208 compared to a 1083. especally with all of the options like hyd deck plates. We like a little trash in the head so it doesn't shell as bad. plus the new knives are alot easier to set up than a 1083 and with no front bearing's it's 16 less part's to go wrong.
You know I get a good bit of trash with my 1083, but that is because I have the deck plates set pretty tight. Everything I read says to keep them tight so you don't lose alot on the ground. Pain when I have to change them though.
A friend of mine (tomih on here) ran a 2208 last year. He's in Europe and their corn is a lot taller than here in the US. The longer stalks put more load on everything, especially when driving fast enough to keep his 8010 full. Anyway, they ran it for maybe 4 weeks before giving up on it. I don't remember how many row unit gearboxes they shelled out on that header, but it was a lot.
They've had much better luck with the Geringhoff heads, especially the older ones. The new ones are built just a bit lighter he says. The rota-disk is excellent for chopping the stalks, but don't get the lawn mower blades on the same head that has a rota-disk setup. The lawn mower blades can kick rocks up into the rota-disk setup and bend those blades. Pick one or the other if you want a chopping head.
I do know they have a 1000 series corn head that they like a lot. It put up with a lot more abuse than the 2208 did.
I've you've not seen a geringhoff head used, go find someone that has one and check it out. I'm not saying it's for everyone, but worth a look.
(We run two 2208s, this is our second season on them. So far, no failures. I think they work better than the 1000 series in down corn mainly because of the poly snoots. The hyd adjustable stripper plates are nice.)
I have a '04 Harvestec header (lawnmower type chopper) and LOVE it. You could not pry this head from my cold dead hands. Amazing chopping performance, and you can count the ears that you loose from a days combining in one hand. So far it has got 4000 acres through it and has NO problems. The gathering chains are HEAVY and are probably 1/2 wore out.
does everyone know that a 22 24 head is a exact clone of a deere! the parts in the gearcase interchange!! I like my 22 and 24 heads but my next will be a drago. a lot of geringhoff owners changing to drago because of how much less power it takes.
Quote:does everyone know that a 22 24 head is a exact clone of a deere! the parts in the gearcase interchange!! I like my 22 and 24 heads but my next will be a drago. a lot of geringhoff owners changing to drago because of how much less power it takes.
Interesting. I thought I read it was the other way around, that the Geheringhoff rota-disk took less HP per row than any lawn-mower style chopper? I could have read that backwards though.