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Does anyone know what cnh plans are regarding the 2388s? I have heard various people say that they will be discontinued and completely replaced by the 8010.
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I doubt that....
From what im told they will be around for some time
even as long as 5-7 years then perhaps go to a 7010
they were going to come out with a 7010 right off the bat but they put the afx rotor in the 2388 and there wasn't that much difference so they decided to stick with the 2388
From what im told they will be around for some time
even as long as 5-7 years then perhaps go to a 7010
they were going to come out with a 7010 right off the bat but they put the afx rotor in the 2388 and there wasn't that much difference so they decided to stick with the 2388
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The original plan was to scrap the 2388 and replace with 7010. Talked to one of the engineers who logged over 800 sep hrs on a 7010 only to find out it was being put on the shelf. The afx rotor worked so good in the 2388 that they changed thier plans.
I have heard that they have plans out to 2012 to keep the 2388 platform. And why not, cheaper, simple and reliable.
I have heard that they have plans out to 2012 to keep the 2388 platform. And why not, cheaper, simple and reliable.
My opinion of the 2388 vs 8010 is, "If it's not broke, don't fix it!" The 2388 hails from the same, solid heritage of the original 1480, introduced in late 1977. A-F's have undergone as many changes and improvements as any combines, but their basic design and configuration has not radically changed. Sure, some could be critical of this, comparing it to the complete configurational changes brought out by other companies, but on the pro side, the tried and true Axial-Flow design stands as a testament to this combine's reliability and ability to match capacity of its peers!
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I just wish they would make some changes......on a few problem area's
We rotate 2 2388's each year and you can basically mark down what problems you will have after so many hrs
Also HOW ABOUT MAKEING THE HOPPER AUGER HEAVY DUTY
stop with this then metal flighting crap (however you spell it)
I do think from what i read on a fax that they are addressing a few things.
This past year we had a terrible time with the Slip Clutch on the clean grain elevator and im still not reall sure why
Bad luck i guess
Anyone add those extra augers to take stress off of the hopper auger
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just curious
We rotate 2 2388's each year and you can basically mark down what problems you will have after so many hrs
Also HOW ABOUT MAKEING THE HOPPER AUGER HEAVY DUTY
stop with this then metal flighting crap (however you spell it)
I do think from what i read on a fax that they are addressing a few things.
This past year we had a terrible time with the Slip Clutch on the clean grain elevator and im still not reall sure why
Bad luck i guess
Anyone add those extra augers to take stress off of the hopper auger
just curious
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When the new combines came out (CR's), a lot of farmers around here were pissed because the TR's went away. What I think is BS is that Case got to keep their old combines (2388). I think that instead of a CR920 and 940 they should of kept the TR89 and 99 because we have had better luck with them. A lot of our customers that ran New Hollands are going red and green now because there is no more TR's.
[quote author=casefarmer board=Case thread=1136385605 post=1136410787]I just wish they would make some changes......on a few problem area's
We rotate 2 2388's each year and you can basically mark down what problems you will have after so many hrs
Also HOW ABOUT MAKEING THE HOPPER AUGER HEAVY DUTY
stop with this then metal flighting crap (however you spell it)
I do think from what i read on a fax that they are addressing a few things.
This past year we had a terrible time with the Slip Clutch on the clean grain elevator and im still not reall sure why
Bad luck i guess
Anyone add those extra augers to take stress off of the hopper auger
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just curious[/quote
Casefarmer,
Yes,if you use a bubble up auger in the grain tank it will take the stress off of the hopper auger. It will help to keep the clean grain elevator from slipping and plugging.
I've found that in high bushel per hour situations, when the grain tank is nearly full and you are using a bubble up auger, that you can still plug the clean grain elevator.
We rotate 2 2388's each year and you can basically mark down what problems you will have after so many hrs
Also HOW ABOUT MAKEING THE HOPPER AUGER HEAVY DUTY
stop with this then metal flighting crap (however you spell it)
I do think from what i read on a fax that they are addressing a few things.
This past year we had a terrible time with the Slip Clutch on the clean grain elevator and im still not reall sure why
Bad luck i guess
Anyone add those extra augers to take stress off of the hopper auger
just curious[/quote
Casefarmer,
Yes,if you use a bubble up auger in the grain tank it will take the stress off of the hopper auger. It will help to keep the clean grain elevator from slipping and plugging.
I've found that in high bushel per hour situations, when the grain tank is nearly full and you are using a bubble up auger, that you can still plug the clean grain elevator.
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One place where Case needs to make a change with the 2388 to compete is unloading capacity. Make a high capacity unloading auger and it is still a competitive, relaible machine.
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Thanks for the info......
Yeah we did have a good crop this year but it wasn't that..
The dealer is going to take a look at both of them and make sure its ready to go for the next year
i might give that a try thou....
thanks
Also to the next guy
I agree that i wouldn't mind them speeding up the unloading time too but that doesn't bother me too bad.
No need to make a bigger hopper cause all of them have extentions.
I just wish they would go to the heavy duty as a standard option
Yeah we did have a good crop this year but it wasn't that..
The dealer is going to take a look at both of them and make sure its ready to go for the next year
i might give that a try thou....
thanks
Also to the next guy
I agree that i wouldn't mind them speeding up the unloading time too but that doesn't bother me too bad.
No need to make a bigger hopper cause all of them have extentions.
I just wish they would go to the heavy duty as a standard option
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The 2388 will be around for a couple of years yet. There are changes in the works, but of course, they havn't been announced yet. For 06 it gets a Tier 3 engine (electronic) with max hp of 325, up from 285. The rotor gearbox has been updated as well.
The incline auger does give some trouble, especially since everyone puts hopper toppers on them. The HD auger is a good investment.
The 2388 is a bullet proof combine, that will still run with the best! IMHO, there should have been a number change in 04 when the rotor drive was changed and the AFX rotor was installed. I measured a 20% increase in productivity in our conditions with those changes.
Allthough the cab is dated, it is still better than anything out there except the 8010 and CR from NH. It is missing some of the creature comforts of the newer machines. For consistant performance, day in and day out, it is the best combine in it's class... period.
The incline auger does give some trouble, especially since everyone puts hopper toppers on them. The HD auger is a good investment.
The 2388 is a bullet proof combine, that will still run with the best! IMHO, there should have been a number change in 04 when the rotor drive was changed and the AFX rotor was installed. I measured a 20% increase in productivity in our conditions with those changes.
Allthough the cab is dated, it is still better than anything out there except the 8010 and CR from NH. It is missing some of the creature comforts of the newer machines. For consistant performance, day in and day out, it is the best combine in it's class... period.
casefarmer, in your post you said that you had trouble with the clean grain auger slipping. Have you tried putting some washers under the slip clutch springs? I put one washer under each spring a year ago and I have not had the clutch slip since, even in 230 bu corn with the grain bin completely full. You have to use a big enough washer so it will go over the spacer that goes through the springs.
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Yeah i went that route
even put on another washer...
replaced the springs (i doubt those go bad) but thats a mechanics first comment
it eventually got a lil better
but every so often half a hopper full and grrrrrrrrrrrrr
lol
also this was a 12 row 2388 with everything heavy duty
which was odd
and then our other was a normal 2388 and it was haveing the same issues
im not sure what would be the cause of it
i know for a fact i adjusted properly
im haveing the dealer look it over before next year thou
even put on another washer...
replaced the springs (i doubt those go bad) but thats a mechanics first comment
it eventually got a lil better
but every so often half a hopper full and grrrrrrrrrrrrr
lol
also this was a 12 row 2388 with everything heavy duty
which was odd
and then our other was a normal 2388 and it was haveing the same issues
im not sure what would be the cause of it
i know for a fact i adjusted properly
im haveing the dealer look it over before next year thou
When you get it in to your dealer have him check if it has the funnel thing on the clean grain auger in the shoe. If it is older than 03 and was not specked as 12 row ready when it was built it will not have that funnel. That little jewel makes a world of difference.
This past fall my local dealer made the comment that he was told they were going to take the 2388 and put a 8010 like cab on it and call it either a 6010 or 7010? He also said you couldn't believe the amount of project combines Case has laying around from the last 30 years, sum interesting items i guess...
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huh......i find it hard to believe they would take the 8010 cab and put it on a 2388 (with the outside body)
call it a 7010...
lol (on second thought)
Case takes the 8010 body makes it smaller and puts it over a 2388 with the new cab
all interior componets are the same to a T from a 2388 and they raise the price 40,000 bucks
(i hope they don't see this....)
they might like that idea
call it a 7010...
lol (on second thought)
Case takes the 8010 body makes it smaller and puts it over a 2388 with the new cab
all interior componets are the same to a T from a 2388 and they raise the price 40,000 bucks
(i hope they don't see this....)
they might like that idea
We have a 2388 with a Mauer extension that has an additional tiptop extension on it. Combine has an additional bubble up auger. Currently it has around 1,000 seperator hrs on it. Even with the bubble up auger the fountain auger shows excessive wear on the top couple spiralsof flighting & the buuble up ager shows excessive wear on the bottom couple spirals of flighting.
Either both augers will have to replaced before next year or we are considering bolting some of the poly flighting repair kits to them.
Has anybody had experience with these kits. If so did you use the continuous flighting or did you use the individual spirals that bolt on in segments. What is your opinion after having used them?
TIA,
boog
Either both augers will have to replaced before next year or we are considering bolting some of the poly flighting repair kits to them.
Has anybody had experience with these kits. If so did you use the continuous flighting or did you use the individual spirals that bolt on in segments. What is your opinion after having used them?
TIA,
boog
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