We know a guy who went from a 2388 and 1020 30ft flex head to a CaseIh 8010 and a Macdon 36ft flexdraper.He loves the flexdraper head but the 8010 sure gave him a fit until he got all the bugs out of it.I don't recall all of the problems he had with the combine but it sounded very familiar with what I've read on this and other forums.He said he took a chance on buying this head as there were so few out being used by others and Macdon wouldn't let him demo one.He tells me it does an excellent job of shaving the ground in soybeans and there is virtually no header loss like he experienced with his other auger-type flex heads.I never saw it run but a neighbor of ours did and he was really impressed.Last winter at a farm show we talked to a Macdon rep. and he told us that a 30ft Macdon flexdraper would cost slightly more than a JD 630F Hydraflex so they know they have a better product and are not afraid to price it accordingly.
Quote:How long have you ran one and whats your opinion on it...Compared to a 30 ft 1020
2388 combine....Both combines have the new rotor ect..ect..
To be honest here, I've only got about 20 hours of seat time pushing around a 36' MacDon header, the non-flex kind, cutting wheat. I ran with Johnson Harvesting in 2004, and we hand 2 machines set up like that, the rest with 30' 1010 heads.
I would say that on the average day, the 1010 machines were driving maybe .5 MPH faster than the MacDon guys were. If we are at the limits of the machine, not of the header, then you are limited to throughput. However, there were plenty of days where the MacDon heads could cut so much better than the 1010s, that I couldn't believe it. I really noticed it in good wheat where you get that "swirl" of wheat heads right in front of the throat on a 1010. There is just too much material in the way and at that fast, you start leaving a 1' wide trail of uncut wheat right in the middle under the throat. A draper doesn't have that problem.
It also took me a bit to get used to the physics of them as well, like when cutting through uneven ground. The sickle is 1 or 2 feet further out, and you have to just account for that. When I was so used to the 1010, it took a bit of a change to get used to it.
As for soybeans, I don't know there. Here in Eastern Iowa, I believe our ground is just too uneven to get away with a flex draper. They just don't have the same kind of flex that a 1020 has. In flat land though, oh yeah.
Thanks for the input.....We do have some flat ground but once we get south of town it gets pretty rolly..for our area....and it sounds like going with this 2062 instead of the 42 and 52 will give us alot more flex...
so they say...
Something else we were talking about.....How do i i guess turn the headers pitch (i guess is what youd say)
you can change the angle of it? or something like that
do you run a switch up into the cab of the combine? or what???
There is one hydraulic cylinder that connects the feederhouse adaptor to the rest of the head. They add another rocker switch in the cab that, when on, makes your reel adjustment control move this cylinder instead. You don't need to re-plumb any hydraulic lines, the switch takes care of that. It's really pretty simple. The switch should come with the header adaptor for a case combine, and it looks just like the rest of the switches on the console in the cab.
They recommend you take the belts off at the end of the season, roll them up, and store them somewhere that the mice cannot get at them. If you leave them on the header in the shed, there is a chance the mice will eat holes in them.
Speaking of drapers and off topic my neighbor kid and the cutting crew he's with have made it to Pierre SD.(northwest of Oahe Dam)They've been there a week already.That's how fast it's going.The other morning he was servicing his combine when he heard a rattling noise coming from the header.He got close enough to see a 4ft rattle snake had crawled in between 1 of the canvas' on draper head!
.One of the foreigners on the crew(no fear of deadly snakes where he's from)grabbed a grain trailer hopper crank and killed it.
Can't be too careful in rattler country! The next day he had to change a canvas in 104F heat.Thought this was a heck of a job to do in the heat.The wheat they are cutting is yielding from 0 to 15 BPA.with one field doing 11 bpa.
.He doesn't know why they bother cutting it.All are looking forward to the end of the season.