[cat man]

How many acres are you getting on you bourgault 3710 disk drills before seed disk blade bearing failure, parallel arm pivot bushing wearing out, packer wheel bearings, packer wheel pivot bushings, disk cleaner wheel, seed disk replacing, seed boot wearing out. The black floppy hose wearing thin in spots.
Also is anyone else having problems plugging the seed boot with mud allot? Mine seems to plug up allot of boots every time in turn a little.

How are the mrbIII holding up? More or less acres than seed openers.

How are the seed opener wear items lasting on Deere 1895s? How many acres before complete rebuild? Anyone have both drills? Does the Deere last longer than bourgault 3710?

 

[SWMan]

I talked to Bourgault about this today and the response was it very much depends on your soil type for wear. Guys in sandy soil were seeing much more wear on pivot points and obviously on disc than someone with a clay soil, that is why they went to needle bearings. BG has a larger disc so it should get quite a few more acres than JD but I have no personal experience on that except I have 5000 acres on my MRB's and they are barely worn.

 

[cat man]

I'm in clay soils. How often are you greasing? On a sixty foot drill with mrb, there is about 708 grease zerks if I didn't miss one. If all greasable pins are installed on seed openers and banders. Are you greasing all zerks every 1000 acres? How about seed disk bearing hub, how often ever 1000 acres?

 

[Snipe]

I'm in clay soils. How often are you greasing? On a sixty foot drill with mrb, there is about 708 grease zerks if I didn't miss one. If all greasable pins are installed on seed openers and banders. Are you greasing all zerks every 1000 acres? How about seed disk bearing hub, how often ever 1000 acres?

708 grease zerks that got to set a new record, If it's on a pin you would likely want to grease them quite often or they will more than likely not take grease.

 

[SWMan]

I'm in clay soils. How often are you greasing? On a sixty foot drill with mrb, there is about 708 grease zerks if I didn't miss one. If all greasable pins are installed on seed openers and banders. Are you greasing all zerks every 1000 acres? How about seed disk bearing hub, how often ever 1000 acres?

Once a year is what BG tells me. I put about 15 tubes of grease into my 66' 3320 before spring between packer bearings/MRB's/wheel bearings etc. I am really glad that someone invented the electric grease gun! Every one took grease after one year, grease till they are right full.

 

[cat man]

Anyone have actual field experience with service and longevity other than what bourgault tells them? I was told the same thing by bourgault before I bought a 3710. Just goes to show how great their sales and marketing is.

 

[ssfield]

We have around 10000 acres on our 3710. It is 60' 10" spacing. We grease once a season. Our unit doesn't have the greasable pins on the parallel arms yet. They came out last year an added the greasable pin and bearing change up to the packer wheel/wiper wheel pivot. We haven't changed a bearing yet. Have adjusted a few disk bearings because they seemed loose. Majority of our disks have wore down to around 19" from 22". Some were changed because the face of them were badly grooved. The parallel link arms are getting looses. Dealer says there may be a change up program coming to get the new pins and bearings installed. As for the scrapers they are definitely showing wear. I don't think they would do another 10000 but probably 5000. These are the AHP scrapers. We don't run MRBs. As for the plugging and disk skidding issues that's another story for another day. We have been fighting that issue since day 1. Also for some reason this year had more hair pinning issues than the years prior. Very frustrating

 

[Haystack]

This 2014, 3710 has composite greaseless pivot points on both the MRB's and the seed openers. Aside from one zerk on the packer and gauge wheel pivot, the only nipples on the openers were for the disc bearings. In this case any wear on the side of the disc, skidding, or hard pulling, could be attributed to the standard scrapers being set to close to the disc. This one has custom mud gauge wheels that have non greaseable bearings. I would think all new 3720's will have self lubricating composite bushings as well. This machine hasn't gone far enough to comment on how long they will last.


So far no pivots are indicating any wear.

 

[gm]

I run a 2011 3710 since new, has 28,000 ac and change on it, i run in clay, no sand, no disc wear, the scrapers are set to just touch the discs, I grease mine twice a year no bearing failure yet. I am noticing a bit of movement in the bushings and pins of the arms but I am not concerned. My boots haven't plugged because of mud, been stuck twice this year and as long as you don't back up with openers in the ground you just drive with openers in dry ground and if everything turns again you are good to go. The MRB's are the weak point as far as setting them in wet ground...if they turn any fresh soil over it can and will be a problem for the seed discs/boots. I run 28-0-0 through my MRB's so I don't have to go very deep which helps. I still have the original boots which are a bit narrow for big seed like fababeans and large soybeans...they occasionally plug grrrr. I will change the floppy hoses to the seed tubes this year for the first time, I get about 10,000 ac out of 2.5" bumble bee hose.

 

[gm]

Actually this year 2 bearings from the cleaner wheel which runs beside the seed disk have failed, they are non greaseable, they are $84 each that's too expensive and I'm looking to source them else where.