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Quote:The wheat threshed quite easily, so we left the plates down. Do all lexions come with intensive threshing segments? I looked in the manual and then in the combine and couldn't find anything that resembled intensive threshing segments. Do you have yours in for wheat and out for canola? By the looks of it they mount between the APS and the concave. Please enlighten me.

All lexion should have come with intensive threshing segments installed.
The intensive threshing segments are located like you said between the APS concave and the main concave. They fit right at the peak between the two; held in with pins on the back and two bolts on the front. Most of the segment is hidden from view from the front with the rock trap open. Make sure you open up the concave all the way. You can clearly see the bolts because the are on the front edge. You need a 16mm socket to remove the bolts. make sure if you run with them out to put the bolts back in the holes to keep the holes from filling up.

Some people leave them in, and some switch back and forth. Bottom line you may need them for any hard trashing wheat or even barley, you can leave the out for canola. In canola I would think they would slow the crop down, and effecting capacity but I know people have left them and done fine in canola. So it really up to you to try and see what works best.
 

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We had them in for wheat and out for canola and flax. Next year I'm going to try running with them out in wheat, I think that most people around here run with them out in all crops. They are easy to remove, it takes about 15-20 minutes.
 

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Went for a ride last night with fellow poster "Woody". Didn't know crutches would fit across the windshield of a 590R. Nothing to do with the 590, long story, children involved and potential good parenting.
To those of you who think your "X" combine could run with a 590R, as Bart Simpson would say
"Get bent".

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Hey Don
Finished this morning.wanted Terra and mom there for the last pass of harvest 07.Had to fuel up,would have ran out with about 20 acres left on the half.What was that thread we were going to start?catch ya later.
 

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Congratulations.
Just looking at the MacDon box stuffer broacher that came this week.
Looking at larger headers he he.
Can't remember the thread either maybe when the beer wears off
Thank you for the tour last night, it was an eye opener.
Have a hoppy weekend (O that was bad)
I do hope you heal fast.

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Quote:Sorry to hear about the crutches.
Actually the crutches were Woody's. He'll read and appreciate your comment.
The straw was tough (cut straw sitting up on stubble) but not super tough. It's actually been dry this week, harvest in this area will just be a memory by Monday.

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Went to ride on another friends Lexion 590R last night, he was a man (sorry Combiness, person) short, I ended up running it.
O goody assbackwards header and reel lift buttons. Gotta love that down is up logic. Deere changed to up is up logic with the 60 series all in the name of "standardization". By the way the 8010 I demoed last week was also back wards yet sister 9070 was correct. Not even standardized within the same company!
But having to push an auger swing button to STOP a swinging, running auger is dumb beyond belief. Do they actually test this stuff in the field?
Didn't care for that sliding pole speed control, it's gone anyway, hopefully they fixed the two other issues too.
Tobaboy says the turning radius is poor. Is there a gold metal for understatement of the year? This machine had 28L26's. The bolts could be turned in or removed but not much cylinder stroke left so I'm not sure if you'd gain much in addition to possible interference. At least it had a steering wheel spinner.
That road headlight thing is unacceptable and dangerous and limiting engine speed to conserve fuel on the road? Big deal, just give me 40 kms/hr.
I suppose your wondering if I liked anything.Well actually I did. The straw was tough, plugged the knife on a honey bee header several times, and when you went through a draw the added volume loaded the engine down but doesn't give you the feeling of impending doom of plugging, or the rumble and grumble of all rotary machines.
The cab is quieter then my 9860, and the night field lighting is terrific.I didn't pay any attention to quality or losses, wasn't my department.
I'm sure I forgot things but Claas knows where I stand On 3/4's of this post.

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Just wondering, can you turn that button around, we demoed a 595 last week and I also did not like that but not a deal breaker, you can teach this dog new tricks, and as far as the turning radius goes if you are running a 36' header it seemed fine to us, or get the new 40 or 42 foot I cant remember which one honeybee is coming out with but that one would fit the turning radius just right. And DON I thought that you had a 590R am I wrong?
 

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Quote:Just wondering, can you turn that button around, we demoed a 595 last week and I also did not like that but not a deal breaker, you can teach this dog new tricks, and as far as the turning radius goes if you are running a 36' header it seemed fine to us, or get the new 40 or 42 foot I cant remember which one honeybee is coming out with but that one would fit the turning radius just right. And DON I thought that you had a 590R am I wrong?
Just a 9860 and looking.

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what are you looking at? I think we are going to order the 595R's they just seem to blow everyone else out of the water, it looks like a no brainer I don't understand why there aren't more people going that way other then their loyalty to color. We run gleaners now and the A85 is a nice machine but does not compare to the 595, we have neighbors that run 9860 and 8010 and they came over to take a look at the 595 last week we demoed and I think they are leaning that way as well, I don't own their stock but that machine blows evryone else away, more people need to start looking harder that way, save them money and time, running a machine that will do the work of 2 smaller combines, just my 2 cents.
 

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the button for lifting the header is actuallyquite logic if tou start thinking about it cause when you push on the bottom of the bottom its like you would use leverage to lift the header anyway its just what you get used to.

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Quote:the button for lifting the header is actuallyquite logic if tou start thinking about it cause when you push on the bottom of the bottom its like you would use leverage to lift the header anyway its just what you get used to.

Bo

When you get in an elevator where are the low numbers?
That would be logical.
Up is up.


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LOL! Funny listening to you guys discuss things, I enjoy hearing other peoples opinions on the lexions, I appreciate the humour. The turning radius is unbelievably bad, almost to the point of hilarity unless of course you have to run it for a fall! I found that I would just use the turning brake a lot, it will be interesting to see how long those brakes will hold up with that much use.
Hey Don are you the fella from alberta that is in the john deere ads? There is a Don from alberta who runs a 9860 and a 9520 4WD, I've seen the adds, I'm pretty sure he's from three hills. Also, how much of a capacity gain do you think the 590 has over the 9860, all conditions, how many acres/sep. hour do you get in a season. Jester, you run grain carts, am I right? How many acres/rotor hour have you averaged with your 970s. We had looked originally at getting a 9070 along with a grain cart, because we thought with the lower price, we might be able to get similar capacity as the 590 with no cart. Once we really got dealing however, the price of the two machines was quite similar, so the 590 seemed like a no-brainer. What kind of price difference have you been quoted between the 9070/590. I'm curious, we always get a lower sticker price from deere, but the financing is terrible, I guess if your paying cash then that doesn't matter much. Service is a moot point for us as we are serviced well by all brands out here. I liked the 970 when we demoed it against our 480r, it probably would have been our choice if the 590 had not been available.
 

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Very, very impressed! I'm looking forward to getting in it again next year. I'm always curious how the other machines out there are performing. We only run one machine so it is difficult to guage its performance relative to the competition. We're happy with it, and are not looking to change brands any time soon.
I try to be objective in my evaluations, I think maybe sometimes it comes across as me not appreciating the lexion. I mean I really like it, its capacity is huge, it does a fantastic job, service has been great, what more could you ask for?
I agree with your post above, I can't believe there aren't more of them out there, I think if they had a better dealer network then they would move a bunch more machines. A friend of mine would like to have one, but he's 3.5 hours from the nearest dealer, so he sticks with deere.
 

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Forgot some things. The wheel brakes are about as effective as dragging your foot (bad combo with poor wheel cut) and the unloading auger should turn more forward, maybe 10 degrees?
This machine was an 05 maybe that auger swing switch thing may be different now.
Yes quieter than 9860 but noisier than the industry standard CR.
That hydraulic lock for road gear is a PITA, WAY, WAY TOO MUCH BIG BROTHER.
I'm a MacDon man NO knife stalling.

lex

Cut the wheel stops only limited by cylinder stroke on my 4WD 9860. So I'm spoiled. 25 ft U turn no loop no brakes.The 590 is pathetic even when maneuvering in the yard. By the way guys spend 10 bucks on a steering wheel spinner. Makes all combines handle nicer. Warning - does not affect max wheel cut! Dam!
In the conditions I was running in, the 590 would have been 150 to 200% of my 9860. It would struggled and rumbled and grumbled to do much over 60% of the 590. All the time? No. But conditions here are probably "good" about 4 hours a day if at all at this time of year. Isn't it funny when talking about combine capacity it's always the good going. When you talk Lexion it's the tough going. Hmmm.
I find that I have to keep the 590R on my short list, warts and all.
It's just too big a force to ignore.

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Quote:LOL! Funny listening to you guys discuss things, I enjoy hearing other peoples opinions on the lexions, I appreciate the humour. The turning radius is unbelievably bad, almost to the point of hilarity unless of course you have to run it for a fall! I found that I would just use the turning brake a lot, it will be interesting to see how long those brakes will hold up with that much use.
Hey Don are you the fella from alberta that is in the john deere ads? There is a Don from alberta who runs a 9860 and a 9520 4WD, I've seen the adds, I'm pretty sure he's from three hills. Also, how much of a capacity gain do you think the 590 has over the 9860, all conditions, how many acres/sep. hour do you get in a season. Jester, you run grain carts, am I right? How many acres/rotor hour have you averaged with your 970s. We had looked originally at getting a 9070 along with a grain cart, because we thought with the lower price, we might be able to get similar capacity as the 590 with no cart. Once we really got dealing however, the price of the two machines was quite similar, so the 590 seemed like a no-brainer. What kind of price difference have you been quoted between the 9070/590. I'm curious, we always get a lower sticker price from deere, but the financing is terrible, I guess if your paying cash then that doesn't matter much. Service is a moot point for us as we are serviced well by all brands out here. I liked the 970 when we demoed it against our 480r, it probably would have been our choice if the 590 had not been available.


OH OH busted. I was wondering how long that would take.
Capacity? See previous post.
We've averaged barely 12 ac/hr lately lots of straw, terribly shoe limited in canola. Hey did you know a Deere only adds hours when header on, others threshing unit pretty sure.
I agree the prices for all 6 BIG ONES are similar, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if a 9870 cashes out higher than a 590R now. But be aware programs, promotions and dealer mood subject to change without notice!
You are very lucky to be served well by all dealers.
Thanks for the humor comment, life's too short and I want to go out laughing.

Green lights all.

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Quote:As for price, not sure of exact figures but I know we would only be able get 3 Lexions for the price of 4 NH's...as mentioned earlier, the cost - benefit did not pencil out. In addition, the brilliant Cat network in Sk consists of one dealer with very few locations across the province (2 for Ag I think).

Don, have you had honey bee before or always Macdon. In my off farm job, I work with an ex Macdon salesman and he has me thinking of Macdon as well. Interesting that our likes and dislikes are similar regarding the lexion.


I'm not sure why you have a greater price spread than my quotes, o well.
Your assessment of the dealer set-up is right on and I wonder if Claas is aware of it.Their equipment deserves better.
Always MacDon mainly because of automatic header height control, on the go hydraulic header tilt, and timed double knife drive all since 2000.
I guess we have common "whining" interests but neither of us has suggested anything that wouldn't benefit all, including Claas.
Thanks for your input.

Don

Wild spelling mistake!
 
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