We are tossing around the idea of jumping to an 8010 but we are on 16rows. We don't want to jump to 24 row planter (yet) and wonder if anyone has run an 8010 with an 8 row head? We demo'd it with a 12row and it clearly is designed to run the bigger heads. Will it lose effeciency or cause more grain dmg to run an 8 row head on it? We would really like to have something bigger for beans but in corn its bigger then we need. Any input would be appreciated.
8 row 30'' on 8010?
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Come on, guys, start thinking outside the box, here! 8 row heads were fine with 1680's, old 7700's, 760's and such, but the 2388 could easily handle 10 rows [a custom-made head] in 200+ bpa irrigated corn. I think the very least one coud do for an 8010 and like-sized combines, including conventionals like the 9600 and up, is a 12-row head!
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12-16 rows is really just what the big 8010 needs.
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If I had the money to spend on any of the larger Lexions, 8010, big rotary Masseys or other like-capacity machines, logic could only dictate an equally big-capacity header lest its real purpose be defeated. Beside that, combines really perfrm their best under a full load. Starving the separator of crop may result in increased grain loss.
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If only 6-8 rows is all you want picked per pass, then I strongly recommend a smaller combine more suited for that sized head, which will also save in up-front cost of buying it. Just my 2 cents, guys.
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If I had the money to spend on any of the larger Lexions, 8010, big rotary Masseys or other like-capacity machines, logic could only dictate an equally big-capacity header lest its real purpose be defeated. Beside that, combines really perfrm their best under a full load. Starving the separator of crop may result in increased grain loss.
If only 6-8 rows is all you want picked per pass, then I strongly recommend a smaller combine more suited for that sized head, which will also save in up-front cost of buying it. Just my 2 cents, guys.
Our biggest problem is the simple fact that we don't want to spend the 250k on a 2388. The machine has been good but its just out of date. The machine is almost 10yrs old with relatively no changes. Yes the afx rotor is a huge improvement but i also want lvling sieves, in cab adjustments, larger grain tank, faster unload... etc. I just don't want to spend the money on an out of date product. It all comes down to the fact the CaseIH doesn't make the product we need. We want something bigger then a 2388 for beans and in corn we want something with up-to-date technology.
12 row corn heads are great , but you have to think and plan ahead on how to get the grain away from the machine. 2388 is a great machine and instead of all the hassle of buying a new machine, maybe consider running a good used machine with a specialty rotor in it. My brother-in-law put a specialty rotor in and he is very impressed with it. Although, he still admits my 860MF is better. HA HA / yeah right
What kind of moisture are yous typically harvesting your corn at? Where I am in ontario I'm lucky if we get down to 23-24% by the end of the year.. I do alot of corn from 28-35%.. a situation like that would have to be takin into consideration as well no? I realize that an 8 row still isnt enough but I think that with a 12 row you could really make an 8010 work in 240 wet bu corn at 28%
You are right about moisture, when we harvested high moisture corn at 30%. We could only travel at 5mph in 200 bu corn. We use three semis to haul the corn, they keep up, but our hauls are longest hauls are about 10 miles one way and we don't have to wait to unload in a 12" auger.
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we run a 8010 with a 8 row folding head from Geringhoff for two seasons now in very high yielding ( between 250 and 310 bu/ac) and tall corn ( up to 12 feet).
I can tell you that you cannot feed the monster! You get serious problems with the drives, gearboxes and chains, and the fuel consumption is too high for the acres you make per day. We would be glad if we could change to 12 rows, but terrain is too steep and roads are too narrow.
we run a 8010 with a 8 row folding head from Geringhoff for two seasons now in very high yielding ( between 250 and 310 bu/ac) and tall corn ( up to 12 feet).
I can tell you that you cannot feed the monster! You get serious problems with the drives, gearboxes and chains, and the fuel consumption is too high for the acres you make per day. We would be glad if we could change to 12 rows, but terrain is too steep and roads are too narrow.
Quote:Do you plant straight enough to be able to shell with a header that doesn't match up with your planter?
If this is such a problem, how about checking out this Kemper head - it's row-independent (you can crisscross the cornfields with it, if you want to... (according to the producer))
Here´s a link:
http://kemper.wplus3.de/cms/upload/pdf/Cornstar-Deutsch.pdf
It's in german, but I guess the photos speak for them selves...
Ps: Don't know why the made the Deere combine gray in the pics - Deere bought the company years ago...
If this is such a problem, how about checking out this Kemper head - it's row-independent (you can crisscross the cornfields with it, if you want to... (according to the producer))
Here´s a link:
http://kemper.wplus3.de/cms/upload/pdf/Cornstar-Deutsch.pdf
It's in german, but I guess the photos speak for them selves...
Ps: Don't know why the made the Deere combine gray in the pics - Deere bought the company years ago...
Quote:a 2388 can easily handle a 12 row
Yes a 12 row fits on a 2388 and one can get allong fine with it, but........Its an 8 row machine. A 12 row will only slow the speed down. After running a 12 row tracked combine for a couple days and then jumping in an 8 row 2388 with 20.8' dualls........I should have taken some drammamine for seasickness.
Unless I was wanting to do traffic controll or match up planter sizes, there is just no way we'd want our 88 to have a 30' corn head. Ours is 12 row ready, but I think its more intended for 12-22" or 12-20" instead of 12-30.
200 bushel corn harvested by a 2388 12-30 head would make for some slow driving.
Yes a 12 row fits on a 2388 and one can get allong fine with it, but........Its an 8 row machine. A 12 row will only slow the speed down. After running a 12 row tracked combine for a couple days and then jumping in an 8 row 2388 with 20.8' dualls........I should have taken some drammamine for seasickness.
Unless I was wanting to do traffic controll or match up planter sizes, there is just no way we'd want our 88 to have a 30' corn head. Ours is 12 row ready, but I think its more intended for 12-22" or 12-20" instead of 12-30.
200 bushel corn harvested by a 2388 12-30 head would make for some slow driving.
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Our biggest problem is the simple fact that we don't want to spend the 250k on a 2388. The machine has been good but its just out of date. The machine is almost 10yrs old with relatively no changes.
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The 2388 is out of date??????
Also yeah there haven't been many changes
I find that to be a great thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Personally i don't want this to be like other companies who jump around in design's and thinking from year to year
Its a great combine and it doesn't need changed
Sure there could be some improvements made but overall its still the best in class
About that post
The 2388 is out of date??????
Also yeah there haven't been many changes
I find that to be a great thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Personally i don't want this to be like other companies who jump around in design's and thinking from year to year
Its a great combine and it doesn't need changed
Sure there could be some improvements made but overall its still the best in class
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I also agree that its not out of date.....
And i like that they don't make alot of changes
Find a way to stop the buildup on the back axel and make the incline auger thicker and longer lasting in the tank and id be happy
And i like that they don't make alot of changes
Find a way to stop the buildup on the back axel and make the incline auger thicker and longer lasting in the tank and id be happy
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