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Currently running a 2388 with 12row cornhead. Dealer is interseted in tradeing me an 07 8010. I don't know that I need a machine that size as I was thinking a 7010 would be plenty big for me. I run about 2400corn and 1000 beans through the macine each yr. Dealer has an abundance of 8010's as it is easier to move the 7010's in our area. I can trade for the 8010 for $5000 more dollars over the 7010.
Will the 8010 do a good job at say 4-4.5mph or will I have a hard time keeping it full at these speeds? Like I said I don't need this big of a machine but for the price dif. it has me thinking.
Also will a 30' header be big enough for this machine?

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Ryan
 

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Last fall I ran a 7010 w/ 8 row head in 200-230bu/acre corn. We never went lower than 6.3mph unless the ground was too rough to stay in the seat, and IIRC engine load was about 75-80%. Any faster and we had too much head loss. A 12 row would have probably put us around 6mph at 95-100% load.
A farm I visited last fall ran 2 8010s with 12 rows, 97-105% load, 6.5mph, 220-260bu/acre.

Remember, a CIH grain head won't fit a 7010/8010.
A 2200 series corn head can be converted to run on a 7010/8010.

If it were me, I'd buy the 7010, trade in my 2010/2020 and use that money, plus the $5k and get a 36 or 40 foot draper.
 

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How big of a grain tank can I put on a 7010? I think standard on a 8010 is 350. Okay I understand how fast I could go but I guess I need to know how slow can I go? There is no way we are going to combine 6mph around here!! Nothing against you fellas but one rock or washout and it would be a disaster. What kind of job will an 8010 do with 30' head in 50-60 bushel beans at 4.5-5mph and the same for 180-200 bushel corn with a 12 row 30"?
we are going to trade our 2212 for a 3?12 new style head and our bean head is a 1020?
 

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I believe the rotor in both machines is the same.

Get the 8010, you'll like the power, the cleaning capacity, and the little bit extra grain tank.

If your dealer is really trying to sell the thing, try to get a deal on a 2062 or 2162 draper.

In corn, at the speed and bu/acre you are running, you'd be harvesting over 3000 bu/hr.
 

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Wow, I know for 5 grand that is a good offer, but yeah the 7010 will do everything you want, it is one heck of a machine. the 30ft. head really isn't large enough for the 8010 but you will keep it full over 6 mph. I think the 7010 would be better for you even though at about 2000 sq. in. more cleaning capacity the 8010 would be very large for your operation.
 

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You will get along just fine with either machine in corn... I agree with the other posters on the 30 bean head though. You won't be able to go fast enough (with either combine) to utilize it in beans with a 30' head. Find a 36' draper, I know they are a lot of money but you won't be disappointed.

We ran a 7010 with 8 row 30'' corn head in 180-250bu corn anywhere from 4-7mph. Ran our 36' draper 4-5.5 mph in tough green stem 60 bu beans.

We demo'd an 03' 8010 2 years ago with 12 row head in 180bu corn. Can't remember how fast I went but I know we played around with it for a day and a half. Picking 12, planted 16 so their were times when we weren't going very fast and I didn't notice a performance decrease in quality or loss.

I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of deals like this. The 7010 is going to fit a lot more operations then the 8010 so the either the used 8010s aren't going to be worth as much or the used 7010s are going to be worth a premium making the two very comparable in price. Depending on your local demographic of course.
 

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Are you trading combines often? if so ask the dealer what he will do next time around. Sounds like the 7010 may keep its value better. we did 4100 acres last year with 7010 12 row running 4-5 mph in 200-230 bu. corn and 36' 2062 going 4-6 mph in 50-60 Bu. beans, about 2/3 corn and 1/3 beans. the grain tank on the 7010 i think is called 315 bu. Also the draper will pay the diference with less header loss in 1-2 years with that many acres, just one year with the market where it is today.
 

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If the dealer is giving you a great deal on the 8010 go for it. We were looking at buying a new 7010 for our operation too. However our dealer gave us a great deal on a used 8010. So we took it. We got a new 35' 2020, and a 2412 demo cornhead. We only put about 750 acres of corn, 750 acres of wheat, and 750 acres of soybeans a year through our machine. We love it , and are glad we bought it. In fact we just bought a third semi and are looking at buying a grain cart. Good luck with you decision.
 
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