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Need an unbiased opinion on this one, so please keep your color preference to yourself. Our farm has been a long time green supporter, well until I've come into the mix this past year. I prefer to look at the numbers and not the color of a machine (except yellow and silver). The JD dealer has offered me a '09 9770 and the Case dealer a '09 8120, both at the same dollar figure. Mr.JD is telling me that a 9770 will run with the 8120 (8010), just wondering if they are talking from their rear, because I look at the specs and the red one looks like a lot more machine for the money. I should say that we farm in Northern Canada and do combine in tough conditions (HRS wheat, canola, dry field peas, barley, oats). After looking at both machines up close, the 8120 does look a lot simpler and less to go wrong. One plus of the JD is that we've always had amazing service and parts availability from them and the case would be a little uncharted water for us (dealer seems to be good). Just wondering if anyone has a comment or two on are our situation.
 

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Do they have alot of 8010's out and maybe you could talk to one of those guys about service and support...

also sounds like HP and alot of capacity would be right up your
alley so that would be a good combine for that..

Good luck
 

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If you are worried about the dealers service side of things ask around, take a look at their workshop, their parts inventory, their service vehicles and the way the mechanics portray themselves. If people love their service and are happy with them - non biased of course, then there shouldn't be a problem. Best of luck with your decision in purchasing a new combine
 

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on thing that you should consider is that with the case you get the cvt drive so you can reverse the rotar if it gets pluged up and dont have to dig it out
 

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The deere dealer is blowing smoke saying the 9770 can keep up with the 8010 or 8120 . The case dealer around us what taking the 8010 out against the deere boys with the 9770's , the deeres where left in the dust both machines running draper heads in 115 bu wheat
 

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If they are the same money, I would take the 8020, if you are comfortable with dealership. There is no way a 9770 will stay with a 8010 or 20.
 

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I ran one of each for three years. (9760 for two and 9770 for one) They both have there likes and dislikes and for that there probably is not a true wrong or right choice. I combine several thousand acres of corn so the choice for me was a lot easier. The 8010 is a horse in dry corn. It also shines in barley and durum. As for as wheat they both will have there day in the sun. The 8010 definitely likes it a bit tougher than the 9770. So each day is a new adventure.
 

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another thing to consider is that the john deere has an american made engine wile the case has the italan made iveco but then you have to look at the point that the john deere engine is 9.0 L wile the case is 12.9 or something
 

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the case is a 10.3L Iveco and not a parts issue at all from what I have seen since they are in both the red and blue CNH lines of combines and tractors.

The cat guys will jump on here and tell you that they are the machine for you, and that may be true. Odd that you want an unbiased color opinion yet don't want yellow or silver. If its a dealer issue, thats fine. But otherwise they (mostly new holland) might be something to consider.

Some of the other more northern canadian guys on here will give you good opinions on your dealers in the area as well as how machines work in your conditions. I can see that Corn isn't much of an issue for your location
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Not to get you upset or anything, but why would it really matter where the engines are built? American pride maybe?
How do you think we Aussies feel? It's all imported
As long as it works and the back up is there for it, it shouldn't matter where the engine is built - the flywheel goes round and the pistons go up and down.
 

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And I remember when the American deere motor's flywheel went round and round and the pistons up and down and the rods out the side of the block
 

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The yellow and silver bias is more to do with dealer location. I prefer to have my parts and service center 5-10 mins away versus 30-60mins. But NH does have a decent lineup of combines.
 

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have you been on caseih.com? the advantage caseih is a 9870 vs 8120. the red is just so much prettier!! their is a new monitor coming for the X120's the afs700 I think. if your getting a new one see if you can get it in your combine.
 

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9660 vs an 8010? My TR98 has more capacity than a 9660 straight cutting. Must have been the swaths, as you said.

For the same money, a case is the way to go. Better cleaning system with a larger engine and probably a better cab. Plus, after 6 years the bugs are pretty much all stamped out from the CVT drive
 

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Around here we (central alberta) we find that the deeres pickup (615p) is a superior high speed pickup. Just hearsay but someone told me a 9660 and a 8010 were working a feild and the 9660 was keeping up to the case. Mind you chasing a 25 ft swath is never going to work the 8010, but if you are limited to how well the pickup works it is a little frustrarating when you know the combine has more capacity but you can't feed it fast enough
 

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Was visiting with one of our customers that had a 9750 he switched from that to a 7010. his likes about that were how easy it is to switch back and forth from corn and beans when running day and night
 

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I think there must have been a problem with the Case pickup or the operator. Our 8010 with the swathmaster pickup worked very well. I picked up 30' peas at 9 mph without any trouble.
 

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9660? 8010? come on....
9870 was rumbling and I was driving against two 8010's my brother in laws and ours. 25 foot swath at 118bu/ac lodged crop. Yes the Deere beat the 8010 but I was driving it hard. The engine rpm alarm was going the whole time and the thing shock and if I kept this up i would blow that belt which was replaced 3 times in the demo season. Two of the girls were running the 8010's and were not pushing them too hard for the straw was so hard trashing that if you plugged the rotor and lump came out the back it would plug the spreaders, plugging the back end and the chopper, if you did not listen to the alarm. The straw chopper on the Deere chopped way smaller and wider than the 8010's but the Deere was new and the 8010's were 2004's. We will upgrade the choppers this year on the 8010. We now learned to trow the chopper in neutral and pull it around with a chain and can roll again in 5 min. The Deere can keep up to the 8010 but over a day the Deere would fall apart running it that hard all day. Only way I can see a Deere out do one is with a draper and the 8010 with a auger header.
 

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If you have hills then the leveling sieve will be nice. Since they are the same money the 8120 will blow the doors off of a 9770. A 9870 would be a tougher match but still wont save as much grain on a slope. Can't go too wrong with either but i think you will be happier with an 8120.
 

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I traded my JD9760 (1100 hours) in 2007 for a new 8010 40 ft 2152 draper approx $35,000 more than a 9860 at the time. 2007 we broke hydraulic motor shaft on the 2152 draper stopped for 3 hours .The machine was serviced after harvest $3800.00. We never stopped once for a break down this season just gone. 1000 sep hours on the clock one break down excellent sample, capacity(25 to 40 % better capacity than my 9760) and great on fuel. just traded on new 9120. It was a pleasure to polish it and put it in the shed. Dont know what service is like havent needed any. If the green man doesnt pick his lip up soon the red man will have some good green tractors in his yard .I think your green mans trying to make a killing, dont let him.
 
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