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Hi all!

Looking to hear from other people on the Case 8250/9250's. We've been running Lexion's for a while, and love them, but are concerned about no dealer in our area anymore, and thus, lack of service. The primary reason we like them so much is the cutting power. We're able to cut grain that still has some green stalk (overall moisture of 12-15%) with little issue, chop, and spread the stalk that we cut. We prefer to leave about 6-8" of the stalk on the ground, so fairly low. We are irrigated, so we get pretty heavy/thick crop for our area. I need a machine that can handle it.

I'm just curious from those with prior experience how the new Case Axial-Flow's will do in that condition? We've demo'd John Deere combines that could not keep up with the Lexion even though they were the same HP rating. We saw a lot of power decrease in the JD once it got dark, something we didn't see in the Lexion. Will the Case handle it? We haven't been able to get a 9250 to demo yet, so I wanted to ask here.

Thanks in advance! Good luck harvesting if you're still going.
 

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Nothing will handle tough straw like the Lexion, least of all a CaseIH. Best to stock some parts and keep your machines.

Most guys that have experience with all the brands say that if you took their Claas away they would run a New Holland, and I feel the same way.
 

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I have never ran a Lexion. In wheat my case 8120 will always out do the 9770sts running next to it. This year I cut 75% more acres per day than the 9770sts with a cleaner sample. Most any rotory Deere I have seen will plug the tailings when it looks at kochia or russian thistle. Or green patches of wheat. Like 30% moisture green. The guys running green do admit the S series is even worse for tailings plugging. Saying that. The 9770sts I am running will never plug tailings now matter how hard you try. No idea why this is. It also has less capacity than any other 9770sts I have ran. Wished I knew why this is. That 8120 will certainly pull more power when it hits tough straw. It will thrash just fine in tough straw. I was just out cutting in a light rain this morning until the wheat soaked up enough moisture it hit 15% and I quit. Never had a problem thrashing. No dust behind the combine. Certainly slowed me down. Is first season out of CRP spring wheat running 10-60 bushel. Very variable stuff. Average about 35. So you have an idea. The 9770sts will cut right with the 8120 in tough straw. That is my tid bit of experience.

Having a good dealer around that stocks parts is important.
Did Tillman's in Havre take over Lexion dealership when T&E quit? I used to work for T&E in Billings as a mechanic. I thought they never did support the ag side very well. Are you really missing much with out them?
 

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I have never ran a Lexion. In wheat my case 8120 will always out do the 9770sts running next to it. This year I cut 75% more acres per day than the 9770sts with a cleaner sample. Most any rotory Deere I have seen will plug the tailings when it looks at kochia or russian thistle. Or green patches of wheat. Like 30% moisture green. The guys running green do admit the S series is even worse for tailings plugging. Saying that. The 9770sts I am running will never plug tailings now matter how hard you try. No idea why this is. It also has less capacity than any other 9770sts I have ran. Wished I knew why this is. That 8120 will certainly pull more power when it hits tough straw. It will thrash just fine in tough straw. I was just out cutting in a light rain this morning until the wheat soaked up enough moisture it hit 15% and I quit. Never had a problem thrashing. No dust behind the combine. Certainly slowed me down. Is first season out of CRP spring wheat running 10-60 bushel. Very variable stuff. Average about 35. So you have an idea. The 9770sts will cut right with the 8120 in tough straw. That is my tid bit of experience.

Having a good dealer around that stocks parts is important.
Did Tillman's in Havre take over Lexion dealership when T&E quit? I used to work for T&E in Billings as a mechanic. I thought they never did support the ag side very well. Are you really missing much with out them?
No, there's nobody that's taken over for Lexion in Montana. Couple dealerships in Idaho, and obviously Butler in ND, but nobody here. T&E never did care about Ag enough, imo, but the problem is access to a computer. Claas can have somebody out, but they can only access the combine. T&E can access the engine. It makes it difficult for us when we're in a pinch. Parts is the same as before, order from elsewhere lol.
 

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Nothing will handle tough straw like the Lexion, least of all a CaseIH. Best to stock some parts and keep your machines.

Most guys that have experience with all the brands say that if you took their Claas away they would run a New Holland, and I feel the same way.
Parts isn't the issue at all, it's just getting easy access to computers to run diagnostics.
 

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How far away is the closest dealer then? Ours is just about 2 hours and it’s a non issue.

The case won’t hang with the Lexion in real tough or green.

If your bread and butter was pulses though I always thought the Case would be the easiest on the crop.
 

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I have never ran a Lexion. In wheat my case 8120 will always out do the 9770sts running next to it. This year I cut 75% more acres per day than the 9770sts with a cleaner sample. Most any rotory Deere I have seen will plug the tailings when it looks at kochia or russian thistle. Or green patches of wheat. Like 30% moisture green. The guys running green do admit the S series is even worse for tailings plugging. Saying that. The 9770sts I am running will never plug tailings now matter how hard you try. No idea why this is. It also has less capacity than any other 9770sts I have ran. Wished I knew why this is. That 8120 will certainly pull more power when it hits tough straw. It will thrash just fine in tough straw. I was just out cutting in a light rain this morning until the wheat soaked up enough moisture it hit 15% and I quit. Never had a problem thrashing. No dust behind the combine. Certainly slowed me down. Is first season out of CRP spring wheat running 10-60 bushel. Very variable stuff. Average about 35. So you have an idea. The 9770sts will cut right with the 8120 in tough straw. That is my tid bit of experience.

Having a good dealer around that stocks parts is important.
Did Tillman's in Havre take over Lexion dealership when T&E quit? I used to work for T&E in Billings as a mechanic. I thought they never did support the ag side very well. Are you really missing much with out them?
Not related to the thread, but to this post. Have S series Deere for 4 years now. Have fought the tailings every year. More so on 2015 models, not the 16. Put an adjustable precleaner in all of our machines, and the tailings issue is gone. So simple, wish I knew of it when we got the combined.
 

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Perkins engine? Cat engine? CAT ET is fairly common. Perkins software is fairly common. Lots of people work on both. I have had RDO work on an 8230 case combine engine in the past because they knew how to work on the engine better than the local case dealer. They had the tools. They are not a case combine dealer in Great Falls. Can T&E not still access the engine if needed?

Not trying to talk you into anything. Mostly just curious.

For me, I would go with case and have gone with case. New Holland looks interesting in wheat country.
 

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The youtube videos I have watched of the new 250 series and it’s automation have been very impressive. Though I have ran neither, it would be interesting to see how a 250 stacks up to a lexion.
 

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Perkins engine? Cat engine? CAT ET is fairly common. Perkins software is fairly common. Lots of people work on both. I have had RDO work on an 8230 case combine engine in the past because they knew how to work on the engine better than the local case dealer. They had the tools. They are not a case combine dealer in Great Falls. Can T&E not still access the engine if needed?

Not trying to talk you into anything. Mostly just curious.

For me, I would go with case and have gone with case. New Holland looks interesting in wheat country.
I'll have to check out NH. Not sure if they'll have any here, Torgerson's just joined the local NH dealership. Can't imagine they'll sell Case and NH combines.

We can still get T&E out for the engine, but need a Class mechanic for the combine part. T&E can't access the combine, Class can't access the engine. It makes for a cluster because usually they're all related, and to get two mechanics out at the same time is difficult, ha!

We're in pretty thick wheat country. 115 bu+, and running into green straw occasionally.
 

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How far away is the closest dealer then? Ours is just about 2 hours and it’s a non issue.

The case won’t hang with the Lexion in real tough or green.

If your bread and butter was pulses though I always thought the Case would be the easiest on the crop.
Talked to a friend today that is on a farm running 5 9250s cutting red lentils and said they are having big issues chipping/ cracking the lentils. Usually an easy fix but they are getting pretty frustrated.
 

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The latest S Deere should go harder in tough straw than a CaseIH because of the 3 stage rotor cage. The Case is tight all the way thru where as the Deere has more room after the concaves.
I can’t get my head around the tailings issues some have with the Deere. I ran a 690 for a few years and never a problem. Are you guys just looking at the display volume and assuming or actually physically jamming the repeat? To be fair we don’t have the green weed issues some of you have.

Anyway Montana farmer13, I personally would choose a Deere first over the Case for tough stuff. NewHolland over both of them.

I have a suspicion these first 50’s might be like the first batch of black top 8010’s.
 

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I have two 8250. Running top notch. 150 hr. Each.
That’s good to hear SlipClutch

Did you have Flagships before these?
Love to hear a comparison...........
Yes had 8010 8230 8240 and 8250. Each Series just gets better. When I had the 8010 I thought I had the world by the nuts lol. Then I got the 8230. Wow. Way better then the 8010 more power better thrashing and so on you know. Then 8240. I thought how can it get better. Well 8250 gets better. The 50 has just as much power as the 40 but has way more capacity when tough going. Bigger drives bigger feeder house faster unload way better transmission And the automation. Who ever put in the values to make automation work did something right for once. lol. We are half done now still have oats canola and soybeans to go.
 

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Hard to beet the lexon in your tough conditions, but tried out all the colors a few years back and case with big hp is pretty dam good, the 50 series I seen has been dialled in and works better than others, we have a lot of green kocha this year and it eats well, the Deere cleaning system is hurting, and there configuration makes it a bottle neck, to stuff tough conditions threw.. Best of all it the rotor reverse on case, from your seat you can be up and running in a minute, allows you to try thought conditions that you would turn away with green

Dealer has a dozen 50s out this year and not many problems with them, good sample from cleaning.. Deere also seams to have new teck working well on sample, just not a rotor belt guy anymore
 
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