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We only have a fairly small operation and need to replace our 37 year old harvesters (2 of) with something a bit faster. We are currently looking at an old 8820 JD Titan 2 and my brother and I are wondering what the differences are between an early 20 series and the Titan 2, or is it just a flash sticker on the side?
The machine we are looking at is supposed to be a 1989 model but I have no idea how to verify that, also do 8820s have any major design failings or is there anything that gives trouble we should be looking for. We have had a look but it just appears to be in normal order for its age. This machine has 4000hrs up so its not new but appears to be in good order, no rust in frames or anything and paint in good order so its not been outside much. We can't see anything other than that its a bit old but we would probably only put about 120 hours a year on it.

What do you blokes think, is it worth mucking around with or are they too fragile at high hours.
Graham, from Western Australia.
 

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Thanks Blokes, and thanks TxFarmer for the welcome. It "is" my first post and I joined to find out a bit about these machines. There are a lot of these old girls working further out in the bigger acerage areas out here but they were always too big and valuable for our mixed farming area so I never knew very much about them, and as the story goes if you want to know something about a machine,"ask the man who owns one". Thankyou all for the input, it sounds like they are a decent machine and this ones condition seems acceptable for its age so we will probibally take it on. It may come as a culture shock to me though because for 20 years I have been using an 18 foot Shearer XP 88, a local Australian made machine about the same capacity as a 4400 JD so driving a 30 foot 8820 may take a bit of getting used to. I will let you know how we get on, harvest is just around the corner here (we start in November) so if we do get it I will know soon enough how it performs.

It's a very good site you have here, I think I will be back quite often, and anyway I may need advice on setting up or repairing things that give trouble.

Thanks a lot blokes,
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Just a quick note to thank Tractor8100 for emailing me some spec sheets for the 8820 and to let you all know that we have now officialy bought one 20 year old Johnny 8820!

We have taken another look at the machine and this time took her for a spin to make shure all is reasonably OK, and it still looks good for a machine of its age. We havn't picked it up yet but it's only about 5 miles away so we will probibally go and get it next week some time. I recon thats when we will start finding things we missed before.
Anyway blokes, thanks for the help and advice we will find out what sort of buy it is between now and Christmas.
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Looks Good, doesn't look like it will need very much at all, no rust in frames, bearings and belts seem good, engine and hydrostatics seem good, tyres (well about 50% but still sound) can't find any cracking in frames or sheetmetal anywhere, chains all seem good, grain pan and augers look good,front is as strait as an arrow, knife sections are a bit worn, we will probibally resection the knife before harvest, comes with a comb trailer (don't know what you call them in the US but a transporting trailer for the front),even the bottom of the elevators looks good, it hasn't been repaired and looks like it will do a bit more before it will need attention. All in all at the moment we are real happy !
We are haymaking at the moment but when I go and pick it up I will take a few pics, and you can bet if it goes alright there is going to be some pictures of the Austalian harvest on here in about 6 weeks.
Thanks for the help and support blokes, this site is "EXCELLENT"
Graham
 

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Markat425, Thanks for the link, I have just spent 2 hours reading it from one end to the other.
It's amazing to see that some of you blokes are still using these older harvesters. Its a misconception out here in Australia that they were all retired in the US years ago. Its nice to know some of you have the same attitude to a good machine as what I have even if it does have a few seasons on the clock .
Looking forward to harvest even more now,
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G'Day Stevo,
Gee you can't hide on the net can you ! I think I have been found out by another sandgroper on every site I have ever registered on, great thing the net !

I am in Quairading just under 100 miles due east of Perth, Where abouts "up in the northern wheatbelt" are you ? Things are looking good around here, its been the wettest year we have had here since the 60s and the crops are looking real good. Out the other side of town its a bit dryer but still not too bad, all in all we would be happy if it weren't for the price, thats looking a bit sad.
Nice hearing from another Groper,
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We did actually go and look at a 9500 with 3500 hours up before we looked at the 8820 only problem is $$$$, its about 5 times the price. I know the owners of both machines quite well and no doubt about it the 9500 is a top machine and the owner is exceptionally good with his maintainance, but he isn't shure when he wants to part with it because at the moment he hasn't secured a replacement and we needed one for this harvest. The 8820 on the other hand is available now for a lot less dough, the owner through family berevement is selling most of the farms machinery, he only got the machine a couple of years ago and hasn't had any trouble with it so we have now officialy bought it. (havn't given him the cheque yet but have shaken on it so the deal is done)

**20titan2 , Thanks for that thread and all the pics of your ongoing project, it shure looks a lot better than when it was sitting "in the weeds at the back of the dealers". There is a lot of information in that thread and I read it from one end to the other, well done she is a beauty now.

Stevo, its funny one of the harvesters we are using now came from up your way. It belonged to a bloke named Jim Bodington at Yandanooka, I remember well picking up this old XP88 from between Mingenew and Threesprings and driving it home to Quairading, took us 2 days to cover the 500Klm but its been a good machine. I used to have a mate with a farm at Canna for a few years and one of the reasons I like Johnny harvesters is Les had a 7720 and except for trying to "harvest" a power poll with it while he was doing lupins (something you cant blame the harvester for) I don't think he had any trouble with it at all.

Thanks guys,
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Graham
 

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Yea, we all laughed when we heard about it but it realy wasn't funny. He recons he knew there was a pole there somewhere and was looking all around the end of the front for it and consiquently wasn't watching directly in front ! He was going down wind in lupins with visibility next to nothing because of the dust. It hit about level with one side of the broad elevator with enough force to push the knife back into the spiral, the knife ended up wrapped around the spiral by the retractable fingers. It didn't hurt the rest of the machine (which was amazing) and he was able to borrow a front to finnish with off one of his neighbours. It ended up getting fixed and he used it again the following year.
 
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