Here is a DTAC case that tells how to adjust swing out and swing in times.
Solution Number: 52661
Solution Summary: UNLOADING AUGER SWING TIMING PROBLEMS - 50 & 60 SERIES COMBINES
Publication Date: Nov 28 2006
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**Paper copies of solutions may not be the most current solutions**
Complaint or Symptom:
Auger does not swing in all of the time
Auger does not swing out all of the time
Unloading auger drive does not stay engaged
Unloading auger light does not come on or shut off at the right time
Problem or Situation:
The auger swing times settings may need to be changed.
Solution:
The automatic auger swing system is time based. Pressing the Auger Swing Out Button will cause the auger to swing out for a certain amount of time. Pressing the Auger Swing In Button will cause the auger to swing in for a certain amount of time. Since there is not a sensor on the unloading auger which can be used to determine where the auger is at, the electronic control of the auger will "keep track" of where the unloading auger is at based on the amount of time it has been swinging in or swinging out.
Because unloading augers on different machines may take longer or shorter to swing to the home position or swing to the fully extended position, the electronic control may not be able to accurately know where the auger is at all of the time. Over time, the electronic control may "lose track" of where the unloading auger is. Because of this, the auger may sometimes not return fully to the home position, or may not extend fully when the automatic swing buttons are pressed.
This can also effect the unloading auger drive engagement, since the unloading auger drive will not latch on electrically unless the auger is at least 50% swung out. If the electronic control "loses track" of the position of the auger, at times the auger may be fully extended but the unloading auger drive will not stay engaged. This is because the electronic control is not accurately tracking the auger position and believes the auger is less than 50% swung out.
Procedure:
Normally, if the unloading auger experiences any of the above problems the customer can "zero" the unloading auger position by performing the following procedure:
Using the auger swing out button, extend the unloading auger fully
Press the unloading auger swing in AUTOMATIC button (the second detent) and release. Let the auger swing in until it comes to a stop.
If the auger stops short of the home position, press and hold the auger swing in button until the auger is fully in the home position.
This will reset the logic for the location of the unloading auger in the event that the electronic control "loses track" of the position of the auger.
However, If the problem reoccurs, the auger swing time settings in diagnostics may need to be adjusted through the Cornerpost Control Unit. The following procedure describes how this is done. There are two procedures based on serial number.
Procedure 1: Setting the Auger Swing Times on Combines ( - 695100)
Note: The Auger Swing Times are stored in the Armrest Control Unit (C00).
Engine must be running at high idle.
Return the auger to the "home" position.
Using a stop watch or clock with a second hand, record the amount of time it takes to manually swing the unloading auger from home to the fully extended position.
Change Armrest Control Unit diagnostic address C00 100, Auger Swing Out Time for the time you recorded. A table below shows what value the address should be set to based on the time you recorded.
Using a stop watch or clock with a second hand, now record the time it takes to swing the auger from the fully extended position to the home position. This will typically take 2-5 seconds longer than it takes to swing out. Change Armrest Control Unit diagnostic address C00 101, Auger Swing In Time, for the time you recorded. Use the same table below to determine what value to put in the address.
Note: Round to the next highest time when selecting the value. For example, if it takes 12 seconds to swing your auger, set the diagnostic address to 15 (for 12.5 seconds) rather than 14 (for 11.1 seconds).
Important: Do not set the auger times any more than two seconds longer than necessary!
Value in Address
Swing Time (sec)
21
50.0
20
33.3
19
25.0
18
20.0
17
16.7
16
14.3
15
12.5
14
11.1
13
10.0
12
9.1
11
8.3
10
7.7
9
7.1
8
6.7
7
6.3
6
5.9
5
5.6
4
5.3
3
5.0
2
4.8
Procedure 2: Setting the Auger Swing Times on Combines (695101 - )
Note: Engine must be running at high idle.
The Auger Swing Times are stored in the Left Control Unit (E03).
Return the auger to the "home" position.
Using a stop watch or clock with a second hand, record the amount of time it takes to manually swing the unloading auger from home to the fully extended position.
Change Left Control Unit diagnostic address E03 100, Auger Swing Out Time for the time you recorded. A table below shows what value the address should be set to based on the time you recorded.
Using a stop watch or clock with a second hand, now record the time it takes to swing the auger from the fully extended position to the home position. This will typically take 2-5 seconds longer than it takes to swing out. Change Left Control Unit diagnostic address E03 101, Auger Swing In Time, for the time you recorded. Use the same table below to determine what value to put in the address.
Note: Round to the next highest time when selecting the value. For example, if it takes 16 seconds to swing your auger, set the diagnostic address to 16 (for 16.7 seconds) rather than 15 (for 15.4 seconds).
Important: Do not set the auger times any more than two seconds longer than necessary!
Value in Address
Swing Time (sec)
26
100.0
25
66.7
24
50.0
23
40.0
22
33.3
21
28.6
20
25.0
19
22.2
18
20.0
17
18.2
16
16.7
15
15.4
14
14.3
13
13.3
12
12.5
11
11.8
10
11.1
9
10.5
8
10.0
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9660STS, 9560SH, 9560STS, 9550SH, 9750STS, 9650CTS, 9660, 9650, 9880STS, 9560iSTS, 9650STS, 9860STS, 9660CTS, 9450, 9660WTS, 9560, 9760STS, 9550
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AUGER, MONITOR, JDM ELEC, F5933, F5239
Solution Number: 52661
Solution Summary: UNLOADING AUGER SWING TIMING PROBLEMS - 50 & 60 SERIES COMBINES
Publication Date: Nov 28 2006
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
**Paper copies of solutions may not be the most current solutions**
Complaint or Symptom:
Auger does not swing in all of the time
Auger does not swing out all of the time
Unloading auger drive does not stay engaged
Unloading auger light does not come on or shut off at the right time
Problem or Situation:
The auger swing times settings may need to be changed.
Solution:
The automatic auger swing system is time based. Pressing the Auger Swing Out Button will cause the auger to swing out for a certain amount of time. Pressing the Auger Swing In Button will cause the auger to swing in for a certain amount of time. Since there is not a sensor on the unloading auger which can be used to determine where the auger is at, the electronic control of the auger will "keep track" of where the unloading auger is at based on the amount of time it has been swinging in or swinging out.
Because unloading augers on different machines may take longer or shorter to swing to the home position or swing to the fully extended position, the electronic control may not be able to accurately know where the auger is at all of the time. Over time, the electronic control may "lose track" of where the unloading auger is. Because of this, the auger may sometimes not return fully to the home position, or may not extend fully when the automatic swing buttons are pressed.
This can also effect the unloading auger drive engagement, since the unloading auger drive will not latch on electrically unless the auger is at least 50% swung out. If the electronic control "loses track" of the position of the auger, at times the auger may be fully extended but the unloading auger drive will not stay engaged. This is because the electronic control is not accurately tracking the auger position and believes the auger is less than 50% swung out.
Procedure:
Normally, if the unloading auger experiences any of the above problems the customer can "zero" the unloading auger position by performing the following procedure:
Using the auger swing out button, extend the unloading auger fully
Press the unloading auger swing in AUTOMATIC button (the second detent) and release. Let the auger swing in until it comes to a stop.
If the auger stops short of the home position, press and hold the auger swing in button until the auger is fully in the home position.
This will reset the logic for the location of the unloading auger in the event that the electronic control "loses track" of the position of the auger.
However, If the problem reoccurs, the auger swing time settings in diagnostics may need to be adjusted through the Cornerpost Control Unit. The following procedure describes how this is done. There are two procedures based on serial number.
Procedure 1: Setting the Auger Swing Times on Combines ( - 695100)
Note: The Auger Swing Times are stored in the Armrest Control Unit (C00).
Engine must be running at high idle.
Return the auger to the "home" position.
Using a stop watch or clock with a second hand, record the amount of time it takes to manually swing the unloading auger from home to the fully extended position.
Change Armrest Control Unit diagnostic address C00 100, Auger Swing Out Time for the time you recorded. A table below shows what value the address should be set to based on the time you recorded.
Using a stop watch or clock with a second hand, now record the time it takes to swing the auger from the fully extended position to the home position. This will typically take 2-5 seconds longer than it takes to swing out. Change Armrest Control Unit diagnostic address C00 101, Auger Swing In Time, for the time you recorded. Use the same table below to determine what value to put in the address.
Note: Round to the next highest time when selecting the value. For example, if it takes 12 seconds to swing your auger, set the diagnostic address to 15 (for 12.5 seconds) rather than 14 (for 11.1 seconds).
Important: Do not set the auger times any more than two seconds longer than necessary!
Value in Address
Swing Time (sec)
21
50.0
20
33.3
19
25.0
18
20.0
17
16.7
16
14.3
15
12.5
14
11.1
13
10.0
12
9.1
11
8.3
10
7.7
9
7.1
8
6.7
7
6.3
6
5.9
5
5.6
4
5.3
3
5.0
2
4.8
Procedure 2: Setting the Auger Swing Times on Combines (695101 - )
Note: Engine must be running at high idle.
The Auger Swing Times are stored in the Left Control Unit (E03).
Return the auger to the "home" position.
Using a stop watch or clock with a second hand, record the amount of time it takes to manually swing the unloading auger from home to the fully extended position.
Change Left Control Unit diagnostic address E03 100, Auger Swing Out Time for the time you recorded. A table below shows what value the address should be set to based on the time you recorded.
Using a stop watch or clock with a second hand, now record the time it takes to swing the auger from the fully extended position to the home position. This will typically take 2-5 seconds longer than it takes to swing out. Change Left Control Unit diagnostic address E03 101, Auger Swing In Time, for the time you recorded. Use the same table below to determine what value to put in the address.
Note: Round to the next highest time when selecting the value. For example, if it takes 16 seconds to swing your auger, set the diagnostic address to 16 (for 16.7 seconds) rather than 15 (for 15.4 seconds).
Important: Do not set the auger times any more than two seconds longer than necessary!
Value in Address
Swing Time (sec)
26
100.0
25
66.7
24
50.0
23
40.0
22
33.3
21
28.6
20
25.0
19
22.2
18
20.0
17
18.2
16
16.7
15
15.4
14
14.3
13
13.3
12
12.5
11
11.8
10
11.1
9
10.5
8
10.0
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9660STS, 9560SH, 9560STS, 9550SH, 9750STS, 9650CTS, 9660, 9650, 9880STS, 9560iSTS, 9650STS, 9860STS, 9660CTS, 9450, 9660WTS, 9560, 9760STS, 9550
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AUGER, MONITOR, JDM ELEC, F5933, F5239
