I have been told from dealers of both red and green that the guys buying the 8010 and 9860 are usually farming with money not for money. Also see some guys buying bigger combines than the support equipment can handle. Hard to see the need for a combine that can harvest 4000+ bu. an hour when you can only handle 2,000 or so, but i guess if you got a big ego or a big pocketbook then she will look real good setting in the field with a full bin.