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With the DT'a series one of the nicest tractors I have ever driven, I would find it hard to believe that the new 'b' series would be a failure. We will see them next month. Regarding Bob Crane, He is the best breath of fresh air since Robert Ratliff to join AGCO. Tractor development for the most part is done by Fendt and SISU divisions, Bob is VP North America-little to do with engineering in Germany. However, AGCO and those of us as customers along with shareholders would be well served if Mr. Crane was CEO.
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I work for an AGCO dealer, and yes I did see this rig at HHD. To be truthful they were taking pix of the unit for promo stuff. My point being, this tractor was suppose to be to the market place last fall for display with delivery for spring. Why have they been talking about this thing for a yr, but it is still delayed getting to the market. Do any of you really believe that the production models will be on the farm for spring? They shined us on about how great the new "C" series MT700 would be, but so far all we have seen is poor quaility control and electronics that are suspect. Why would you think the Orange or Red painted tractors would be any different. The 900 series 4x4 have had quaility control problems from the get go. Poor rear end differentials, sand in the hosing that didn't get cleaned out and now are in the hyd and transmissions. It is just a comedy of errors. I hope I am wrong, but if it quack likes a duck, walks like a duck, it is probably a duck.
I am making this tractor a whipping boy for the poor planning and eng that AGCO is now exhibiting across a lot of there brands. How is AGCO one of the big 3 mfg for farm equipment and you cant figure out how to make GPS work with it's tractor's. This is not NEW technology. You announce a GPS provider that cant deliver and showed abosolutely no ability to think they could deliver at the dealer meetings.
Now AGCO is trying to come out with a Harvest Solutions combine rental program ala Machinery Link. Another great idea!!! Machinery Link cant make it without yrly investments in fresh capital, but AGCO thinks they can make this work.
I have ran Gleaner combines for 20+ yrs and love them, we run a Deutz Allis air cooled on the farm as well. So I have history with this company and cannot believe how poorly they implementated their strategic plan to grow market share.
I am making this tractor a whipping boy for the poor planning and eng that AGCO is now exhibiting across a lot of there brands. How is AGCO one of the big 3 mfg for farm equipment and you cant figure out how to make GPS work with it's tractor's. This is not NEW technology. You announce a GPS provider that cant deliver and showed abosolutely no ability to think they could deliver at the dealer meetings.
Now AGCO is trying to come out with a Harvest Solutions combine rental program ala Machinery Link. Another great idea!!! Machinery Link cant make it without yrly investments in fresh capital, but AGCO thinks they can make this work.
I have ran Gleaner combines for 20+ yrs and love them, we run a Deutz Allis air cooled on the farm as well. So I have history with this company and cannot believe how poorly they implementated their strategic plan to grow market share.
You make points that I alluded to in my earlier post; Bob Crane needs to become CEO of AGCO sooner rather than later and straighten things out, especially for NA. If Richenhagen gets his way with his strategic plan, market share will spiral faster downward than the thermometers at International Falls MN in January. Regarding HHD, I was there all three days and did not see the new tractor, it was either camouflaged or there for photo shoots and removed from grounds before opening day.
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Jan 14, 2009, 8:18pm, bushton4 wrote:These tractor's will be another complete failure by AGCO. They are only 8 mo behind from when they were suppose to bring them to the market place. They had one on display at HHD but nothing worked on it. They did not have one in Hesston at the August intro, now they want everyone to go to GA to see this steaming pile.
Just found out today that the new "C" MT700 series challengers have NO computer platform to work with anybody's autosteer!!! Not Trimble, not Beeline, even their own pick to run GPS TopCon will work. Oh wait a minute another abject failure by the rocket scientists at AGCO, lets go with another loser on GPS, Beeline didn't sink us enuff, TopCon can get us to the bottom faster. How do you procduce a tractor that is suppose to be state of the art with a "NEW" CANBUS system but not have any software interfaces to work with any autosteer systems. They might as well left off the hydraulic system.
They just keep falling farther and farther behind the competition. It is hard to not just laugh till your sick about how they are running the place.
Way to go BOB CRAINE!!!
It is absolutely untrue that any version of the new high horsepower (over 200 HP) row-crop tractors from AGCO Corporation have been displayed to any audience, dealers or the public, anywhere in the USA or Canada. No new AGCO DT Series, Challenger MT600C, or Massey Ferguson 8600, presented in production or prototype form, was displayed at HHD or elsewhere. It has all been saved until February 2009 and that is when dealers and the public will start seeing these tractors out from under wraps for the first time on North American soil.
See them at the World Ag Expo, Feb. 10 to 12 in Tulare CA and at the National Farm Machinery Show Feb. 11 to 14 in Louisville KY and judge for yourself their chances for success.
Just found out today that the new "C" MT700 series challengers have NO computer platform to work with anybody's autosteer!!! Not Trimble, not Beeline, even their own pick to run GPS TopCon will work. Oh wait a minute another abject failure by the rocket scientists at AGCO, lets go with another loser on GPS, Beeline didn't sink us enuff, TopCon can get us to the bottom faster. How do you procduce a tractor that is suppose to be state of the art with a "NEW" CANBUS system but not have any software interfaces to work with any autosteer systems. They might as well left off the hydraulic system.
They just keep falling farther and farther behind the competition. It is hard to not just laugh till your sick about how they are running the place.
Way to go BOB CRAINE!!!
It is absolutely untrue that any version of the new high horsepower (over 200 HP) row-crop tractors from AGCO Corporation have been displayed to any audience, dealers or the public, anywhere in the USA or Canada. No new AGCO DT Series, Challenger MT600C, or Massey Ferguson 8600, presented in production or prototype form, was displayed at HHD or elsewhere. It has all been saved until February 2009 and that is when dealers and the public will start seeing these tractors out from under wraps for the first time on North American soil.
See them at the World Ag Expo, Feb. 10 to 12 in Tulare CA and at the National Farm Machinery Show Feb. 11 to 14 in Louisville KY and judge for yourself their chances for success.
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Re: AGCO hhp intros
Aha! The pieces are starting to come together.
"""I work for an AGCO dealer, and yes I did see this rig at HHD. To be truthful they were taking pix of the unit for promo stuff."""
brushton4
The first of the new tractors to arrive was a Challenger and it did go to a photo shoot near the time and location of the 2008 HHD show. (Sunflower implements were on hand, etc., so it makes sense to do it in conjunction with the show.) Due to his dealer employment or other connection, brushton4 saw this Challenger during its modeling career.
The first Massey Ferguson 8600 and the first new AGCO DT275B did not land on North American soil until November. They have also enjoyed brief but intense modeling careers (photo shoots pulling a Sunflower 1435 disc, Hesston big balers, 8824 White Planters, etc.)
The Challenger was definitely not on display although it may have been stashed not too far from the show site during the show. If someone was stealthy enough to find it and view it, we all want to know one thing ---- where are the spy photos! Post them now because it is only days until every farm magazine and web site can have all the photos they could want from AGCO.
Strange as it may seem, AGCO Tractors is posting spy photos on itself at www.longlivethefamilyfarm.com and www.agcoiron.com.
Aha! The pieces are starting to come together.
"""I work for an AGCO dealer, and yes I did see this rig at HHD. To be truthful they were taking pix of the unit for promo stuff."""
brushton4
The first of the new tractors to arrive was a Challenger and it did go to a photo shoot near the time and location of the 2008 HHD show. (Sunflower implements were on hand, etc., so it makes sense to do it in conjunction with the show.) Due to his dealer employment or other connection, brushton4 saw this Challenger during its modeling career.
The first Massey Ferguson 8600 and the first new AGCO DT275B did not land on North American soil until November. They have also enjoyed brief but intense modeling careers (photo shoots pulling a Sunflower 1435 disc, Hesston big balers, 8824 White Planters, etc.)
The Challenger was definitely not on display although it may have been stashed not too far from the show site during the show. If someone was stealthy enough to find it and view it, we all want to know one thing ---- where are the spy photos! Post them now because it is only days until every farm magazine and web site can have all the photos they could want from AGCO.
Strange as it may seem, AGCO Tractors is posting spy photos on itself at www.longlivethefamilyfarm.com and www.agcoiron.com.
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Wow, bushton4 is all fired up!!!
First off, on the MT700C's. No manufacturer will make theri tractor work with another brand of GPS system with out using that brand of monitor. We have installed Trimble on one for a show that is upcoming in couple of weeks and it works great.
Second off, on the MT600C, 8600, or the DTB, these tractors have been running on the test farm in Arizona for a couple of years. The intro has been planned for a 2009 intro since we were told about the tractor at dealer training the last couple of years. We will have product on the ground by the end of March, 2009. And hopefully in the field and running without to many issues for spring work. How about you guys over seas, have you had any issues with the tractors? they have been out for a few months over there.
Third off, I have never seen a completly new redisigned product introduced by any tractor manufacturer that has not had needed a few things updated on them. Let's look at the 8000 series Deere's, the 8010 Case combines, the 8070 Ford/New Holland tractors, and the list goes on and on.
First off, on the MT700C's. No manufacturer will make theri tractor work with another brand of GPS system with out using that brand of monitor. We have installed Trimble on one for a show that is upcoming in couple of weeks and it works great.
Second off, on the MT600C, 8600, or the DTB, these tractors have been running on the test farm in Arizona for a couple of years. The intro has been planned for a 2009 intro since we were told about the tractor at dealer training the last couple of years. We will have product on the ground by the end of March, 2009. And hopefully in the field and running without to many issues for spring work. How about you guys over seas, have you had any issues with the tractors? they have been out for a few months over there.
Third off, I have never seen a completly new redisigned product introduced by any tractor manufacturer that has not had needed a few things updated on them. Let's look at the 8000 series Deere's, the 8010 Case combines, the 8070 Ford/New Holland tractors, and the list goes on and on.
Jan 15, 2009, 10:03am, bushton4 wrote:I work for an AGCO dealer, and yes I did see this rig at HHD.
That's funny, I was at HHD and walked all over the Agco lot, a couple times, and never saw any sort of these new tractors. Not a picture, not a brochure, nothing. They didn't have any there. No new series of Agco, Massey, or Challenger there. Don't know what you were trippin on, or what show you were at.
That's funny, I was at HHD and walked all over the Agco lot, a couple times, and never saw any sort of these new tractors. Not a picture, not a brochure, nothing. They didn't have any there. No new series of Agco, Massey, or Challenger there. Don't know what you were trippin on, or what show you were at.
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