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Sneaky, I like it:49: Now to fit the smartphone with a lawn chair and cup holder.
 

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It might have been mentioned in the thread but can you throw a boundary file at it and it comes up with outside round guidance and an inside boundary so you could do the headlands last?

Further could it ask you what side you would like to align your infills too with the option of a least overlap straight option or a a+?

Because that would be the ****.
 

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It might have been mentioned in the thread but can you throw a boundary file at it and it comes up with outside round guidance and an inside boundary so you could do the headlands last?


Once you have a boundary you can make a headland either by drawing it in manually, or by setting how eq widths to the tenth of a width in from boundary. AgOpen will generate the contour path from the boundary, so it's made for you. Do the inside of the headland with full autoturn/eq control, then do the headland with contour lines provided by the boundary. Boundary can also be made in google earth, so technically its ready to start operation without even going around the field.


Further could it ask you what side you would like to align your infills too with the option of a least overlap straight option or a a+?


Yes, called curve AB, with also the option to smooth them to your liking. That's a lot harder to do autonomously, but not impossible. Got about 2500 acres on it now, some changes yet, but certainly the bones are there. Its almost annoying to get back into a "regular" tractor.


Because that would be the ****.

It is the ****. Have a funky field where the long edge is "crooked" so made an AB Curve and smoothed it so it was almost like an AB Line. That's a great option and since each is generated from the reference, there isn't the contour issue.


Not sure what you mean by infill, of the headland?
 

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Got to try autosteer for real today on my hagie sprayer. Besides a few pid tweaks it worked great. The field I tried it on is a old pasture full of badger holes and a few good slopes. The only thing that would be nice is a way to smooth out the heading slightly. When you hit a bad rough spot it swings the heading pretty bad causing some slight oscillations, but the autosteer did correct well. Unfortunately I didn't get to use u turn. Something went wrong doing the headland pass and the record window went full screen and I forgot to turn on the booms in aog since I was still doing it manually anyhow. Not a big deal though and probably my fault(or norton antivirus garbage).
Now to fit a spring and work switch, it would have been nice not to have to keep the pressure on the drill manually as it sort of defeats the purpose lol.
One last thing. I have not tried personally, but know a few others who have the same sprayer and trimble ez steer. It would not work well or at all so you obviously have done something right that AOG can run it in pretty much the worst possible field conditions.
 

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what sort of range do you expect without the land line internet connection ?? two miles or ??

It doesn't need an internet connection, only a local network connection. A high powered antenna goes pretty far. You can also create a cellular network - I think that is what ww is using. For me its really only getting it going, clicking start remotely, since once it's done the headland, and run out of land, it should Dubins back to the start and stop/park. If it faults, errors etc, Dubins back home and park.



WW, what are you using for TeamViewer to connect sprayer to seeder?
 

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It is the ****. Have a funky field where the long edge is "crooked" so made an AB Curve and smoothed it so it was almost like an AB Line. That's a great option and since each is generated from the reference, there isn't the contour issue.


Not sure what you mean by infill, of the headland?
I’m pretty envious of the ability to mold the workings to you liking. There’s a few things with the Trimble gear I’d like to bitch slap the engineers over and this is one of them.

I call the infill the area inside the headlands. We seed ours last because the track machines scour pretty bad on the turns.

I just want the brain box to make me a line on the side I choose either NSEW right next to the headland pass and ask me what I want for an A+ so it can draw a line with the least amount of overlap. Maybe even give me an overlap calculation to use that a+ vs a line to fit.
 

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okay ...


you don't want to monitor it, initially anyways ..??
i -assume- it's not going down public roads ?? [where there might be unknown vehicles]

As long as you have a wifi connection, TeamViewer will work and you can do all the things remotely and see everything going on. You have to specifically allow LAN only in TV, no internet required - deep in the settings.



There is a router in the cab, which you just connect to, and then you can see and control the computer in the tractor remotely with either another PC, or smartphone. Haven't tried it on an apple product since i don't own one.
 

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As long as you have a wifi connection, TeamViewer will work and you can do all the things remotely and see everything going on. You have to specifically allow LAN only in TV, no internet required - deep in the settings.



There is a router in the cab, which you just connect to, and then you can see and control the computer in the tractor remotely with either another PC, or smartphone. Haven't tried it on an apple product since i don't own one.
https://teltonika.lt/de/product/rut230/#tab-order-codes

TeamViewer on iPad works for this!
I have a Teletonika rut230 on board
 

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I’m pretty envious of the ability to mold the workings to you liking. There’s a few things with the Trimble gear I’d like to bitch slap the engineers over and this is one of them.

I call the infill the area inside the headlands. We seed ours last because the track machines scour pretty bad on the turns.

I just want the brain box to make me a line on the side I choose either NSEW right next to the headland pass and ask me what I want for an A+ so it can draw a line with the least amount of overlap. Maybe even give me an overlap calculation to use that a+ vs a line to fit.

Sometimes I think they never actually used the product they developed. the Trimble in the TJ530 has no contour. Whaaaaat? We've gone from an Outback S2 that could do contour, follow nicely, and reacquire the line automatically - to no contour, and you have to push the "Auto" button at every headland turn.



And people think autonomous tractors are just around the corner, more likely in another five years you'll have to push a button on constantly like a dead man switch to stay in autosteer mode.
 

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As long as you have a wifi connection, TeamViewer will work and you can do all the things remotely and see everything going on. You have to specifically allow LAN only in TV, no internet required - deep in the settings.



There is a router in the cab, which you just connect to, and then you can see and control the computer in the tractor remotely with either another PC, or smartphone. Haven't tried it on an apple product since i don't own one.

so kind of like SimFarm?
 

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With TeamViewer, you can control the computer in the tractor with either another PC or with the smartphone. Works good, even the openGL display shows up nicely. Free for non commercial use.

Voila, remote control
As a long time TeamViewer user, I can not claim any moral high ground here but just a reminder...this IS commercial use. While it doesn't feel like it most of the time, farming is a for profit enterprise, i.e. commercial. There are good opensource source remote control apps available, like UltraVNC, TightVNC. These can be a pain to get connected via the internet when your WAN IP is not static. On a LAN, like your example here, using them is no more difficult than using TeamViewer.
 

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As a long time TeamViewer user, I can not claim any moral high ground here but just a reminder...this IS commercial use. While it doesn't feel like it most of the time, farming is a for profit enterprise, i.e. commercial. There are good opensource source remote control apps available, like UltraVNC, TightVNC. These can be a pain to get connected via the internet when your WAN IP is not static. On a LAN, like your example here, using them is no more difficult than using TeamViewer.

Can certainly use those open source projects! Certainly fits the whole story line of the project. I've seen this more as a hobby, but maybe it is commercial. Pretty grey actually.

If it helps, i have cracks for the commercial version :)
 

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Can certainly use those open source projects! Certainly fits the whole story line of the project. I've seen this more as a hobby, but maybe it is commercial. Pretty grey actually.

If it helps, i have cracks for the commercial version :)
:22: Shoots that moral high horse in the head.

I’m sure this would still class as private use. I’m sure when Brian is rolling these out on a production scale it might be different. Even BoGo suggests team viewer for its x30’s and no commercial license.
 

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It doesn't need an internet connection, only a local network connection. A high powered antenna goes pretty far. You can also create a cellular network - I think that is what ww is using. For me its really only getting it going, clicking start remotely, since once it's done the headland, and run out of land, it should Dubins back to the start and stop/park. If it faults, errors etc, Dubins back home and park.



WW, what are you using for TeamViewer to connect sprayer to seeder?

I have a Rogers Tab e LTE in sprayer and in tractor. They are always on wifi hotspot mode. Better signal then my cell.
Computer in sprayer and tractor have google drive backup and sync installed. Changed directory in agopen to a file in google drive. Thats how fields are transferred. Or I can setup field and boundary on home computer and it automatically syncs to both tractor and sprayer. I only use Teamviewer to help tractor operator with settings or guidance lines etc if needed.
We've covered over 7000 acres with units already and more impressed every day!!!
 
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