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Looking at buying an 8x53 auger and am on the fence about what engine to get with it. I have been given 3 options. 29 hp efi kohler, a 35 hp vanguard, and a 38 hp kohler. Does anyone have any experience with any of these? Good or bad? Thanks.
 

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I have a 30 HP Kohler on my 8x46 and if grain is not dry it will plug. Now its not an efi model but if I were to buy another it would be 35-40 HP. Especially going with a bigger auger.
 

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I have a 35 hp vanguard and 30 hp kohler and I'd take vanguard over it anyday. They were having trouble with those 30s and 35s. I think they have that solved now. My 25 hp kolher is rock solid. I think the efi is a good idea. With all the trouble I had with my 30 kolher, I think I'd take vanguard.
 

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I really like the sound of the efi option, but my current auger is an 8"x45' and runs a 20hp kohler. I wish it had more power and I don't want to sell myself short on my new auger.
 

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This new auger your planning on setting up, will it have a self mover on it and the reason I ask is because of the extra power used, a small amount of drag on the engine just to flow the oil but if a bin sweep is put on, that takes a fair bit more power. Mind you the engines you are talking about should be suitable, especially in the 35 horse + range. Also is this auger used for emptying grain bins and not filling them as a steep auger angle for filling bins certainly ups the amount of power required.

As to the EFI Kohler, this is dated information now as that would be five years ago when a local small engine shop sold one to a farmer that had the auger equipped with the electric clutch and after a few computers were fried ( at considerable cost ) on the engine, it was determined that feedback from the clutch magnetic circuit when it was turned off was causing a voltage spike that the computer could not handle. He installed a few diodes on the auger to prevent this feedback and if that still applies to that engine now, I don't know but thought I would give you a heads up on that.

I've only talked locally to one person that was using the Vanguard 35 horse on a 10" auger after having gone through a few Kohlers with less then thrilling results ( not sure what size Kohler ) and just seemed so pleased with the Vanguard engine, how it started in cold weather was one of his comments and just had not been having the problems with it.
 

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The new auger I am setting up will be equipped with a mover, a sweep, and an electric clutch. I use the auger for loading bins and unloading bins.
 

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From the research I have done, I found that the 38 kohler is rated at 35 hp and about 54.5 lbs.ft of torque. Where as the 35 vanguard is rated at 35 hp and 52.5 lbs.ft of torque. Price wise the kohler is about $150 more. Worth it for 2lbs ft. Of torque?
 

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There was a thread on here about all the problems with them and I have two neighbours with them that have the same issues mainly no power.
 

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Do not get Kohler command pro 27. They are weak on 8" auger. I will buy Honda next time. Neighbors brandt auger came with the pro 27 as that is what Brandt suggested with it. It sits most of the time and he uses his old auger with pto and tractor. Mine will just do my brandt 835 with grain sweep. If grain is heavy and damp it will plug.
 
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