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I have the opportunity to purchase a Austin Western grader with problems and wanting to find out if it's worth it or not.
The bad: owner says differential problems...
In the pic the circle drive has a bent cylinder (not a huge deal as I know of a good hyd shop that will custom make anything like that)
The good: its 4X4
Hydraulic (not mechanical like the old cat graders)
And it seems to run good (4 cyl starts on gas switches to diesel)

So, does anyone know anything about these graders in particular anything about the rear diff. Is there any parts availability?
It kinda looks like a mack or a Rockwell with the center section dropping in from the top.
I haven't looked at it in person yet but may try tomorrow. Will take a flashlight and a magnet and see if I can determine the extent of the diff. problems. Resized_Screenshot_20180715-102641_5443_crop_501x510_1531804477796.jpeg Resized_20180715_134622_1531804495257.jpg Resized_20180715_134630_1531804504603.jpg Resized_20180715_134601_1531804524589.jpg Resized_20180715_134539_1531804535269.jpg Resized_20180715_134535(1)_1531804545310.jpg
 

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Here is what I say you do.....
Go whine and pout about the diff then forget about the diff once it's yours

A friend of mine has a Cat 12, it's been a nightmare from the word go.
Starter motor always a problem
Rebuilt the engine once and if locked up over winter
Took a section to turn it around
Under powered
Pretty much a fair weather machine as far as the cab goes

This spring he gave up on it, put hydraulic motors in the cab to run the controls, yanked the front axle and put a hitch on it.
He absolutely loves it now being able to hitch a tractor on it and go with all of the amenities of his newer tractors being able to play with it in most any weather.
 

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I have read that back in they're hayday these machines made cat's look silly...?
So what are you saying, cut it apart and make a pull grader out of it??
 

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I have read that back in they're hayday these machines made cat's look silly...?
So what are you saying, cut it apart and make a pull grader out of it??
Leave it just as it is, minus the front axle plus a hitch.

He left everything intact, it looks silly but who cares, it works now.

With everything intact you will have the weight ya need to keep it pulling straight.
 

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I like vintage tractors and machinery... and would love to have it fully operational... my dad has a 200 excavator, D6 cat and a 17yd pull scraper that we play with for heavy dirt work.... I live on my grandparents farm now and still use the old piece of frame pulled by my grandpa's W4 tractor that my grandpa used to float the yard. I just thought that old A-W grader would be fun to do the yard with. Also I have a 276 versatile for snow in the winter.
 

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I hear ya, I'm much alike and I run the old knuckle buster (modified by my friend) and thought it was fun but after a few days straight in it things got old. Doing some yard work or something would be a different story but I was building roads and leveling old field boundarie ridges.
 

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Had one for awhile many years ago... what I remember about it was how awkward it was to turn around. May have been older than the one you're looking at though....but it wasn't any fun to operate after the first hour or so.
 

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Anyone know anything about the front or rear differentials on these machines (I believe the problem is in the rear) it was mentioned in another thread that it may be a kirkstall differential.....???
 
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