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Any (preferably Ontario) broiler farmers around here? Wondering if someone might be able to chat with me about the in and outs of the industry in ontario, building a barn and getting setup to start.

Been bleeding crop acres for some time now and i really need to try and diversify my operation a little bit.
 

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We do chicken (broiler) and grain farming, it’s been a good combination for us as we can feed the grain that we grow to our chickens. We are farming in Alberta though so can’t give advice on ontario chicken farming but should still be similar.
 

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I was thinking about egg farming. The last time I picked eggs I think I was 12. In Manitoba you can have 300 hens before going on the quota system. Just wondering if a guy had 5000 or 10000 hens if it would be worth it to draw a good living from it. Some guys that I know of have 20000 or two times that. They seem to do very well at it. Or maybe your dead in the water before you start. Like most venters. Lol.
 

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I was thinking about egg farming. The last time I picked eggs I think I was 12. In Manitoba you can have 300 hens before going on the quota system. Just wondering if a guy had 5000 or 10000 hens if it would be worth it to draw a good living from it. Some guys that I know of have 20000 or two times that. They seem to do very well at it. Or maybe your dead in the water before you start. Like most venters. Lol.
I looked into this about 10 years ago, was thinking about entering the quota lottery and if I was to win I wanted to know if it would make sense to build a reasonable size barn and buy additional quota. At that time anyway it looked to me like a make-work project with the ridiculous price of quota. Don't know where things are at now but suspect the same. There will be a bunch of guidelines you will have to follow when building your barn which adds cost.

Of course farmland isn't any different these days...:rolleyes:
 

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Went and saw Gabe Brown's operation beginning of July. He has about 1400 chickens he roosts out of converted stock trailers in his pasture. Free range and supplements with corn screenings. Says the only thing he buys is oyster shells. 900-1000 eggs a day. Sells in Bismarck for $5 a dozen. $65k a year for a couple hours every morning cleaning eggs. I'm assuming that is after wages.
 

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can make a living from 6000 laying hens but quota is getting pretty expensive and so the barn. would need to lay down some serious cash just to buy quota and then barn aswell but would cashflow better than grain farming. barely any risk in layers or broilers and can do it with your 9-5 job or grain farm. broilers is a bit less steady than layers but also easier with a 2 week vacation every 35 days. with machines can run 100000 laying birds with one guy 3 hrs a day i dont think any grain farmer in the world can say he farms 10000 acres with one guy.
 

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can make a living from 6000 laying hens but quota is getting pretty expensive and so the barn. would need to lay down some serious cash just to buy quota and then barn aswell but would cashflow better than grain farming. barely any risk in layers or broilers and can do it with your 9-5 job or grain farm. broilers is a bit less steady than layers but also easier with a 2 week vacation every 35 days. with machines can run 100000 laying birds with one guy 3 hrs a day i dont think any grain farmer in the world can say he farms 10000 acres with one guy.
So when you say make a living on 6000 birds how much are we paying are selfs 40,60,80k a year? and or what’s is left over? To me profit is what’s left over after the dust settles. I like the 3hr work day lol.
 

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6000 birds would only be 1.5 hr or so a day. its the same as if you where to buy land most places it cant pay for itself anymore but if its paid for or have other land it will make you a living. canada has cost of production system so feed goes up egg price goes up etc. never gonna loose money as long as you keep up to average cost and production. if its paid for net income would be higher than your range depending on producer.
 

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never thought of the laying side, was just considering broilers but that sounds like a decent racket too. would have to look into the quota side of things here i guess. If there was a max you could have before having to get quota that might be the way to go, if you didnt mind doing the marketing yourself
 

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Silly question from an American: What do eggs cost at the grocery store in Canada? We have been buying eggs for $0.40USD/dozen here in Michigan. I assume this is a loss leader at the large store we go to on occasion but who knows? People sell them in their yards for $2 to $3 USD for free range and/or "organic" eggs. Just wondering.


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Walmart great value brand is $2.70 Canadian. I sell the free range at 3 and I have seen as high a 6 for free range at some city farmer markets.
 

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Walmart great value brand is $2.70 Canadian. I sell the free range at 3 and I have seen as high a 6 for free range at some city farmer markets.

I did not come out and say it but the $.40 USD/Dozen eggs were at Wal-Mart. We do not go there often but I am amazed when we go.
 

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In Ont. you can keep up to 99 laying hens without quota. And yes there are inspectors that travel the roads checking in on you if you have a sign out at the end of the lane way. I've found them to not be friendly.
Can now keep up to 3000 meat birds without quota, can't remember turkey number. Know a farmers daughter doing quite well doing this. But it's all about location, close to Ottawa. People (customers) will only drive so far.
Did farmers markets for 8 years with pork and market garden goods. A lot of time for little net dollars. Won't do it again.
 
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