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So I'm buying my first combine and it's a cih 1660. It's got fairly low hrs and is in awesome shape for it's age. I'm just starting to doubt how much it will take. And how it would tack up against a massey 850 860 or 7720 Titan 2?

I have a 25ft westward swather and normally wheat bushels at 80-100 bu/acre barley around 120-130 and canola around 60. Will this combine be able to handle this type of swather width?

Also if I'm to bale the straw is that possible? I hear it chews the straw pretty bad? Never had experience with rotaries though.
 

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We traded a 7720 for a 1660 (brand new), and we weren't happy with the capacity, and ability to hold canola in the back. The dealer claimed at the time the 1660 was at least a match for the 7720, but we didn't think so. Ended up trading to a 1680 a year later.

Depending on your acres I would worry that it's not enough combine.

Straw quality is worse with any rotary than a conventional. Even without a chopper, the straw is broken up when it's dry. At the very least the stems are split open top to bottom and kinked in a couple of places. But it's possible to bale it. Last year straw in my area was just really dry and brittle, and only square bales (big and small) were possible behind our rotaries. My neighbor tells me loved the bales, though, since he can just cut the strings and they practically explode into fine bedding.
 

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It will be just fine. It's right in there with the machines you listed. Though the Deere T2 is quite a machine and takes tough straw really well.

Baling can be done with the cih. Its mostly in the settings and set up. But if you do a lot of baling, then demo the machine if you can, or ask more locals how their cih bales work out. You know for sure the other machines can make nice baling quality straw. Just have to either demo the cih or ask more people in your area. But "here" in my area, grass straw from the grass seed business is baled, then compressed for international markets. Maybe half of that straw tonnage, in the 100s of thousands of tons, is done with a rotary combine.
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My balers have actually told me they like the straw way better behind my cx 8070 rather than my case ih rotories. They ask me if ive traded them off yet every year..
 

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Around 320 acres of irrigation now, I used to rent a 9600 Deere but it's not penciling out and the guy I rent from wants to sell it. I don't feel like going in debt over farm machinery so I have to find something else lol. Just starting out on my own and I'm a youngin so...

So how much can I expect to lose on canola? And what can I do to minimize the losses?
 

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my money would be on a low houred massey 860 v8 hydro , cylinder has the inertia to handle a big swath , and the v8 will have enough power , maybe not the nicest cab of your options , but theres enough of them about that you can afford to be picky , wait until you find one that your happy with , whichever one you go for , if you enjoy driving it youll put in the effort to set it , the massey does have big capacity and will leave you some nice straw too , good luck
 

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Our cow guys claim the animals eat the straw from rotaries way more then conventionals. Takes twice as much to bed with and screws with their diets.
 

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I'm just going on memory here, and we only ran a 1660 for one year, but at the time, the loss issue in canola we felt was from the sieves being so small. Just needed more area. Canola is really hard to keep in any combine, though. Doorknob runs a 1660 now, and works with grains even lighter than canola, so it can certainly work.
 

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Our cow guys claim the animals eat the straw from rotaries way more then conventionals. Takes twice as much to bed with and screws with their diets.
he is correct. I have very good friend that bales lot of acres and they always say the rotary bales are junk compared to conventional. Problem is just getting to the age where everyone has rotary so has to bale it.
 

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I went from a MF 850 to a 1680 and I loved my 1680, but I don't harvest cereal grains often so straw isn't a concern for me. When I have done wheat or oats with the case rotors I have noticed the straw is very chewed up and as I recall the MF850 left really nice straw. As far as capacity I have never run a 1660, but the 1680 seemed to be much more capable at least in corn and soybeans.
 

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Alright thank for the insight! Appreciate it, I'll just have to try it out this year and if I don't like it I'll just sell it next year lol.
 

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Is there any weaknesses or things I should look for before I get to harvesting, already changing the impellers a couple belts stuff like that.
 

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dwf, i appologise for my earlier [post , i am not familiar with the case combines, and am not trying to change your mind , good luck with your new combine ,
 
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