Case IH 8120 Questions

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larryp

Discussion Starter · Nov 4, 2009

I know this nice guy

who bought an 8120, and he is wondering about a couple things.
1. Is there any way to reverse the header and real switches so up is up and down is down. He just doesn't understand why NH has the switches the right way and Case doesn't.
2. Is there any way to engage the integrated auto steer without touching the monitor. ie Like hitting the resume button to lower the header or using the switch on the backside of the hydro handle. Can a remote switch be mounted on the hydro handle somewhere?

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casefarmer

· #2 · Nov 4, 2009

actually the way the 2388's have been to most is the right way... hit the down button to raise and top to go down... deere switched it a while back and that didn't go over well haha

id have a hard time getting used to that.... i don't think you can switch that around but i do hope if case decides to change it they give us the option like that would be hard...

cowgirlchaser

· #3 · Nov 4, 2009

On my 2188 I switched the fore and aft because I didn't like it. I just took the screws out and popped the buttons out of the joystick and switched the wires. I learned this when I had to put a new button in. I have been wanting to do this to my 8010. I will look tomorrow to see if you can do this.

Don Boles

· #4 · Nov 4, 2009

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Who said he's a nice guy?

Guess you know my stand on switch direction, I think the Lexion and CIH dorks who came up with these back wards switches should be jailed.
That button on the back of the hydro handle is to switch between reel fore and aft and header tilt.
When you hold that button and use the reel fore and aft the header tilts.
Also known as MacDon ready.
Mysteriously they got that one right.

OH, 90 degrees?
Flawless!

Don

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Don Boles

· #5 · Nov 4, 2009

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Which way do you like it BigA?
On MacDon tractors when push the right side of the switch closest to your hand the reel moves closer.
So it's logical and I always move it the right way without thinking or looking at it.
What happens went you run a MacDon header on a Lexion combine?
You guessed it, both fore and aft and header tilt work back wards.
Fine, a PITA but livable.

However back wards header and reel height controls?
Inexcusable!

Don

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steigerman

· #6 · Nov 4, 2009

Also if you press the front button (shift)and resume it will raise the header to the acre counter shut off point and depending on software the next press of resume and the shift button will return you to auto height and engage your auto steer.

tech

· #7 · Nov 4, 2009

if you hit the shift resume button to raise the header it will put you into headland mode witch lows you wind down and closes you sieves and it dose some other things as well just to engage your auto guide you just have to hit the shift button on the back of the handle twice click click and that will engage you steering

midwest

· #8 · Nov 4, 2009

Thanks for the tip on the autosteer engage. I knew it was possible with the buttons on the handle because sometimes I would accidently engage it and I couldn't figure out how I did it. As far as the buttons being backward on the handle....I usually use the resume button to raise and lower the header.

cowgirlchaser

· #9 · Nov 4, 2009

MacDon makes tractors?

Hmmm as for which way I'll have to wait till tomorrow. All I know is I would always press the wrong way when I wasn't looking.

Don Boles

· #10 · Nov 4, 2009

That's what they call they're power units.

Don

larryp

Discussion Starter · #11 · Nov 4, 2009

Hey thanks steigerman and tech for the tip on engaging the autosteer. I knew it should have something to do with that shift button, but I couldn't find it in the manual. Has anyone installed a peep hole or sight glass in the top of the Crary big top. Would sure be nice to see when the Hopper is almost full?

larryp

Discussion Starter · #12 · Nov 4, 2009

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[/quote]
Who said he's a nice guy?

Guess you know my stand on switch direction, I think the Lexion and CIH dorks who came up with these back wards switches should be jailed.
That button on the back of the hydro handle is to switch between reel fore and aft and header tilt.
When you hold that button and use the reel fore and aft the header tilts.
Also known as MacDon ready.
Mysteriously they got that one right.

OH, 90 degrees?
Flawless!

Don[/quote]
Hey Don, his wife thinks he's a nice guy

Boy if you have 90 degree turns working I-Teck Pro, John Deere in general should buy you a steak at the farm show. I'll try your settings tomorrow when I hook up to the drill to put it away.

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midwest

· #13 · Nov 4, 2009

Am I correct in saying that when they update the pro600 and the controllers in these combines they change the functions of the control handle. My point is, it sure would be nice if we could read an updated manual online so that we knew what controls what.

casefarmer

· #14 · Nov 4, 2009

yeah and give us the options to assign the buttons... how hard would it be to give us a button to hit on the pro 600 to customize up /down and concave numbers

also doesn't the 2388 style make more sense.... you pull back on a lever to raise..so hitting down raise's go fwd to lower top on button for that...

??

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Don Boles

· #15 · Nov 4, 2009

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Yes, Congrats larryp. I'm sure they figured it out by now.

Getting to be quite a few of those red machines in this area, a very competitive area
salesman wise and I think it's a fairly decent product.
Don't tell Tony I said that!

Don

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larryp

Discussion Starter · #16 · Nov 5, 2009

Another question for seasoned CNH XX20 operators regarding auto-steer. Is there an audible alarm or chirp to let you know the auto-steer is engaged and on track, or if the wheel is turned or it disengages from the track does it give you some sort of chirp? For some reason there is no sound whatsoever engaging or disengaging.

midwest

· #17 · Nov 5, 2009

There is only an end of row alarm.There is no sound when you engage or when you disengage.. The double click to engage sure is nice, used it all day yesterday.

jussi

· #18 · Nov 6, 2009

I agree the Auto-steer engage on the button on the back works good. We updated software and went from engaging with the Resume button to the double click on the back and it works great.

midwest

· #19 · Nov 6, 2009

One thing I found out yesterday is that the feeder has to be engaged for the double click to work.

larryp

Discussion Starter · #20 · Nov 7, 2009

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I just finished mounting my 972 macdon on the case 8120 from the JD 9870. It wasn't that much fun. It took close to 3 full days. I'm sure it will go faster the next time.

The change over kit from JD to Case was close to 6 g's. the instructions were only so so. Most of the electrical plugged in, and there was not too many issues other than I cannot get fore and aft to work, only tilt, whether I push the shift button or not. Also Macdon did not send the potentiometer with the kit. This potentiometer goes on the float optimizer, its slightly different than the JD set up.
Beef of the day! Macdon product support. I believe there are piles of these headers out there and only a fraction of them are set up correctly. The difference imo of whether someone will buy another header or not is if it is set up correctly on the combine. If these headers are set up correctly they work great if not there a pain.
OK, I'm done venting.

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