case IH round bar vs. large wire- corn and soybean

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seedcleaner

Discussion Starter · Oct 16, 2009

Re: case IH round bar vs. large wire- corn and soy

Correct me if I'm wrong anybody. Removing everyother wire is great for corn, if the empty holes don't plug with corn. Roundbars don't have wires. They are good for corn, especially wet, will work for beans, but aren't as good as large wire. Here is what I would do. 1- Buy coverplates. Pull every other wire out for corn in the front half of the front half of the rotor (1 1/2 concaves) Run that for corn, install three coverplates for beans on the first concave and front of second. OR 2-Buy helical concaves (loewen has wires, Gordons do not). Use them for corn, use three coverplates for beans. You have to use coverplates with gordons for beans, or it will let so much through, the chaff won't feed down into the chaffer area because there is too much material. Or buy helicals but not coverplates, and swith concaves between corn and beans. Goodluck Coverplates work great for getting all pods open.

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caseihafx8010

· #2 · Oct 16, 2009

Re: case IH round bar vs. large wire- corn and soy

Back when we ran 2388s we took every other wire out for rice and left them out for the soybeans too never noticed any problems I've never had any round bars but all my neighbors say they leave to much trash for soybeans

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steve1616

· #3 · Oct 16, 2009

Re: case IH round bar vs. large wire- corn and soy

The only reason I am scared of cover plates, is because it seems like it would damage the grain. Soybeans don't seem to damage as fast as corn so maybe the cover plates would be a good idea. Would you say that the large wires are just as good as the round bars for corn as long as every other wire is remove. We have never had any problems with the holes plugging in corn, but our drago corn head brings in mostly just the ears and very little trash.

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neukm

· #4 · Oct 16, 2009

Re: case IH round bar vs. large wire- corn and soy

I am curious about this as well. THe Case IH round bar does have wires..

http://www.messicks.com/partdetail/87298938.aspx

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seedcleaner

Discussion Starter · #5 · Oct 16, 2009

Re: case IH round bar vs. large wire- corn and soy

The only set I have seen didn't have wires. They might have been painted green, I don't remember. I would have thought they wouldn't have wires. Coverplates aren't used for corn. They really don't damage grain either. High return, fast rotor speeds, etc... cause more damage than coverplates, but I understand your concern. With coverplates, there won't be a measureable amount of full pods.

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steve1616

· #6 · Oct 17, 2009

We currently run the large wire concaves in our 2577. I have heard of a lot of people using the round bar concave for corn and soybeans. We take every other wire out for corn harvest because it makes a huge difference on corn loss. Is the round bar as good as the large wire if you take every other wire out? Also, will the round bar work just as good in soybeans as the large wire with every wire back in the large wire concaves. It has never been a big deal to take every other wire out for corn, and then put them back in for soybeans, but this year we are switching back and forth so much that it is a pain. I would still rather stay with our current setup and doing the extra work if it saves corn and soybeans, but if round bars worked just as good for both applications, then I would gladly buy some round bar concaves.

Also, if round bars are the way to go, who would you buy them from. I would want decent quality with a reasonable price.

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