[jimbobobaroo]

My 780 Seems to get setup for Wheat, start boogying right along, then after a little while the CA decides to mess with things, and I lose about a mile per hour and Feederhouse only running about 50%.

Sometimes, it will come back, sometimes not. Capacity drops from 1600 bhp to about 1200 and engine load only running 60% or so. I'm doing HRS wheat and was curious about some of settings.

Is there a special Hard Red Wht setup? Currently, it's set at:

Machine Setup: WHT / 850 Cyl / 10mm concave / Driv Strategy Normal / Monitored Throughput / FeedRate Target 90 / Sieve & Chaff - 60. / TM6 Chaffer / Normal Sieve / Keystock APS Grates / NO added ITS

To me, it seems like wind goes too high 1300 - 1400, and Chaffer open to 18, while Sieve at around 8.

If anyone has a basic setup that seems to work, I'll start there. I was thinking that maybe I should be using the US crop types??

Thanks

 

[Don Boles]

Try a more aggressive drive style setting Jim, but I really don't know why it softens feed rate sometimes, happens to me as well.

There is no basic setup, that's the point of auto.
I'm going forward this to a whiz kid I just met last week, see what happens.

 

[Don Boles]

Jim, change Throughput (monitored throughput) to
Output (constant throughput).
Dial in feeder depth to suit loss.

CEMOS Auto tends to think any reading is bad when it comes to loss.
You be the judge.

 

[gm]

Make sure you tell it what the conditions of the crop are like as well, ie. crop is standing, harvest conditions dry, normal or damp.

 

[drylandfarmer]

Take your hot key(the right hand knob) and turn it to the 9 ocklock position. The cruise pilot icon will come up on the top screen in the middle. You can see your feederhouse depth here an setpoint. When it starts to back off speed an icon will come up on the top right of the screen telling you what part of cruise pilot is limiting speed. Rotorloss, sieve loss, engine load, or feederhouse depth sepoint.
Today I found the rotor loss icon was limiting my speed more than I wanted so i backed off the sensitivty just a bit. This changes things in cemos, but the loss was still good enough. Seems anytime you start to get any rotor loss it slows the combine a bit.
I was averaging around 1600 bph most of the day in durum.
The cemos engineer said ideally you would want to see the loss scale up about a quarter the way on both scales for cemos to be making changes.

 

[Don Boles]

When it starts to back off speed an icon will come up on the top right of the screen telling you what part of cruise pilot is limiting speed. Rotorloss, sieve loss, engine load, or feederhouse depth setpoint.

As well as max speed setting. Kind of a Captain Obvious thing, but I've done it.
That screen is an excellent guide to what's limiting speed.

 

[Don Boles]

The cemos engineer said ideally you would want to see the loss scale up about a quarter the way on both scales for cemos to be making changes.

If using assigned loss monitor sensitivity levels quarter way up the scale is trace level losses, pretty fussy.

 

[Snipe]

How thick is the operators manual for Cemos/CP? Or is this system fairly self explanatory?

 

[joesixpack]

When the brain box plugs the combine solid who's ass do you kick!

 

[Ben Heide]

When the brain box plugs the combine solid who's ass do you kick!

hmmm....

 

[Don Boles]

When the brain box plugs the combine solid who's ass do you kick!

Ah, the old ultimate responsibility question.
Same as before.

 

[gm]

When the brain box plugs the combine solid who's ass do you kick!

The brain box hasn't been wrong yet...but the human was in trouble when picking up swathes and feeding in a pile and promptly plugging the APS

When used correctly it won't plug the combine, because you can dial in how thick a mat you want to feed into the combine...so it is always up to you to decide how wreckless you want to be. If you haven't driven a Lexion cruise pilot then you won't know and probably won't believe what it can do.

Anybody buying a class 7, 8, 9 or 10 combine without a proper autofeed ie. cruise pilot is not using their combine to it's maximum potential. We won't consider a differen't colour until they have something similar to a Lexion

 

[Don Boles]

How thick is the operators manual for Cemos/CP? Or is this system fairly self explanatory?

It can be simply learnt off the screen, fairly straight forward.

 

[brendan9]

When the brain box plugs the combine solid who's ass do you kick!

Still the driver as in my 690 i still pull back to slow it down a little quicker than it does, but i'd like to think it does a better job than me of speeding up and down.

 

[mkeating]

If anyone has a basic setup that seems to work, I'll start there. I was thinking that maybe I should be using the US crop types??

Thanks

We're just getting started with our first CEMOS as well. We had good luck with it in wheat earlier but have abandoned it tonight in our first field of canola.

Are you guys satisfied with it in canola?
What kind of throughput are you able to achieve in 45 bpa canola? What are your measured losses?
Somebody mentioned using a "US Rapeseed" setting - is that correct?

Thanks,
Mark

 

[Don Boles]

Are you guys satisfied with it in canola?
Somebody mentioned using a "US Rapeseed" setting - is that correct?

Thanks,
Mark

Mark, it's phenomenal in canola!
Makes the biggest difference in capacity of all CA controlled crops!
No such a thing as a US Rapeseed setting.
Unless you have the latest update released about three weeks ago to make CA work with US Canola, use rapeseed.

 

[Don Boles]

Use the Rapeseed crop setting for CA!

While latest software versions allow US Canola as a CEMOS Automatic crop setting it appears the Rapeseed setting works much better anyway.

As to Cruise Pilot (CP), interesting thing happened yesterday.
I was helping a neighbor do canola, running Output (constant throughput) running a feeder house depth of 100 at max feeder speed, second most aggressive driving strategy, system was crisp, worked fantastic.

90+% of the field was fine but on the rest wind had raised **** with the swaths requiring the steering shuffle.
Now the same button that engages auto steer also turns on CP, but on headland turns one gets in the habit of hitting the button even though I didn't want auto steer.
I quickly realized that I am now even more addicted to auto feed rate with Cruise Pilot than I am to auto steer, I'm not as good as it (by far),
I can't be bothered to take on the stress of trying to be even 1/2 as good as it is, it actually bugged me less to have to do that little bit of steering than if I would have had to run the ground speed.
Never thought I'd say that!

 

[mbfarmer]

Still the driver as in my 690 i still pull back to slow it down a little quicker than it does, but i'd like to think it does a better job than me of speeding up and down.

One can not put the Deere system or any other in the same category as the cruise pilot. They are reactive not proactive.

 

[Don Boles]

That's an innovation?!!!

One can not put the Deere system or any other in the same category as the cruise pilot. They are reactive not proactive.

You're gonna love this mb. Take a look at this:

About AG Innovations

I have no idea how the innovations were selected nor submitted nor how the call went out. Since I don't know this just take this post for the comedic value I intend.
From that link:

John Deere - Interactive Combine Adjustment

This new idea enables the combine operator to select a harvest priority and specify which performance issue the marchine should focus on: grain quality, straw condition or grain loss. By making the recommended adjustment, farmers can optimize combine efficiency during changing harvest conditions.

Really?
That's an innovation?
Compared to Claas CEMOS Automatic?
Hmm...

If this trend continues next year I expect:

JOHN DEERE
This innovative company has...
Wait for it...
Put air conditioning in the cabs!

 

[rod]

NH "intellicruise"

Don, I think I'm right in asking that you tried the NH intellicruise & it has some misgivings or not near as good as lime green - oopps sorry, big yellow.
Did I read/think this correctly or am I comparing apples with wine glasses.
Anyone got any relevant info on NH intellicruise - does it work - is it worthwhile?