[mf2775]

I have a short shoe 1680 and the top rail and (front shaker plate)? got ruined when the bushing went out I've got it patched up but it will need more attention after harvest. We have a lot of sidehills and I was thinking the long shoe might help on those. Would the gusts out off a 1688 work? I realize some welding would be involved but that would be OK. Looking for advice or any tips?

 

[doorknob]

How much of this 1688 do you have access to? If you have the whole rear section of it, you may not have to do any welding. Everything will bolt right in. The cutting and welding part is on the tailpiece that the rear axle pivot mounts to. But if you have the one off the 1688, you're set.

 

[mf2775]

Doorknob what are talking about with the tail piece? It looked the same to me. Does the rear axle stick out farther? I don't want to start something and have a big surprise. I called worthington ag parts and they would sell me any thing I wanted. Off a long shoe 1680 to 2188.Thanks for your reply!

 

[doorknob]

If my picture posting ability is still with me, there should be qa pic of the rear tail piece I'm talking about. It is bolted onto the rear of the combine and the rear axle is bolted to it. If you have access to these peices for a reasonable price, you should not have to do any bending or welding. All pieces are bolt on if you can get them for the right price. The cutting and modifying were part of the solution back when there was no plentifull long shoe parts at the wrecking yards. Now days, all pieces are available for a bolt on conversion, just depends on how well your supplier of used parts works with you.
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not sure what I did wrong withthe picture, but I'll try again later.

 

[mf2775]

Thanks for the pic! I see what you mean now. Thanks again.

 

[blacksheepdiesel]

Can the longer shoe from a 1488 be retrofitted to a 1460?

Godspeed,
Trent

 

[doorknob]

Quote:Can the longer shoe from a 1488 be retrofitted to a 1460?

Godspeed,
Trent

Hmmmmm...............................Well, I have to admitt ya got me stumped on the 1488 part. You can take the parts from a 1660 long shoe and put in your 1460 yes. However, in my opinion, unless you have something special your harvesting, the 14 series rotor cage, grates and concaves usually limit things enough that a long shoe is of limited benefit. If you have the time and the parts available, and can install the higher capacity 16 series cage and components, then you might benefit enough from the work it costs to install the long shoe.

At that point, unless you are really attatched to your 1460 or have height and width issues for roads and bridges or storage, you might look at the money for trading to a nice 1480 or even a 1680 short shoe. They are really devalued nowdays, and can be had cheap. They would do everything your converted 1460 would and more because of the power included. JMHO.

 

[blacksheepdiesel]

doorknob,

My BAD! Too many long days of combining left my brain putting out more than its usual load of flatulence. I said 1488, I meant 1660.

What is different about the 14 rotor cage, grates and concaves?

Yea, I would much rather have one 1680 or 1688 than two 1460's, but it's dad's farm, not mine!

Godspeed,
Trent

 

[doorknob]

The best thing to do is go to your dealer and look inside one or the parts book. That is the best way to really get a good feel for just how large an improvement it is. But basically, the concaves are about 6-8" longer. You can use your 14 series concaves and bolt on the 16 series concave extentions.

Then the cage over the grate area is perforated allmost all the way around. There is a series of rows of perforations on the right side just above where the grates mount up on the right side. Then on the left, it is perforated upwards allmost to the top of the vane mounts. Lots of extra room for grain and seed to exit the rotor and stay in the machine.

On our old 1440 and 1460 that we ran before we got the 1680, we just removed every other transport vane in the grate area. We simply allways had rotor loss in our crops. It was allways the limiting factor. The 1460 machine is a great machine. It can do a lot more than what it is allowed to do in stock form. That's probably why the 1660 (and later models of same size) made such a great presence. It is a very versitile size machine that will fit a lot of operations sizes.

 

[jdg]

I put a new loewen cage for a 2366 in my 1460 when it came time to replace the old one. Put in 3 used concaves from harvest service from a 2366 and the threshing and sparating capacity is greatly increased. I intend to put in a longer shoe one of these winters. 1460 is a very versatile machine. jeff

 

[blacksheepdiesel]

Thanks so much for the insights guys!

Godspeed,
Trent