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looking at some harvest pics and i noticed that most of the time operators leave about 12-16" of the header overlapping?

why?

when i run the combine i try to keep it to 4-6".

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You were looking at GLW's pics were'nt you when you thought up this thread?


I too prefer a full header cut. I have missed a couple stems every now and then, but I just cant see having a 30' head for a 27 or 28' cut.
 

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I've found it depends a lot of harvest conditions. If you're in a field where you're limited by speed, then you certainly want the header full. However, if your combine is at capacity (HP, loss monitor, etc) then it is better to leave a little more overlap and just drive that % faster to keep the machine full. You're going to cover the same acres per hour, and you reduce the risk of skips. Grain still standing in the field (in skips) doesn't add to the bottom line.

The other answer is that it is more stressful to keep a small overlap. By going to a 1' overlap, it's more relaxing. After 10 hours in a machine, people get tired of concentrating.

-Lance
 

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I know when I'm in rolling hills I have a lot more overlap than when I'm in flat land. It just depends on conditions. I only have one eye, and my depth perception really sucks. 2 feet 20 feet it all looks the same. My 1440 I can see the right side a lot easier than the left.
 

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Everyone will have an opinion on it. And it is all about whatever works for the individual. But just for instance sake, say you have a 2,000 foot wide field and are going back and forth. If you run a 30' head and cut 29.5' with it or more, that will take 67.7 passes or corners. If you run an overlap of 1.5-2 foot which seems to be about what I've been seeing in the picture on the net, that would be 71.4 corners. Other than the new computer controlled hydraulic driven fan combines, which aint perfect either, each time you leave the crop you loose grain over the back, and each time you re-enter you loose grain.

Now thats for a 30' head in what is likely a small field for that size head. "here" in my area of the pnw, a 20' head is much more common, and a few 25's have come around with the 2388s and larger. So a 20' head in a 2,000 foot wide field would be even a greater loss by not cutting a full head width. The wider the header, the less difference made with some offset. On a single rotor machine, its not so big a deal. But with a conventional or double rotor (I use double instead of twin for pc reasons) it can make a difference in being difficult to set or heavier loss because one side will be starved. When you figure that, you have to divide the header width in 2 and each half gets its half of the threshing unit. So now a 30' head will send 15' to one side and 13' to the other side. That's what, about a 15% difference in material volume?

In our tall fescue grass seed, when swathing a lodged field, some will be leaning "outward" from the header and some inward. I have enough experience, I can do pretty well judging the true line to cut by, but the other machine has an in-experienced operator in it. He will follow the artificial cut line and have a reduced width area. Using the "operator stress" idea, this worked for the swather operator, but did not eliminate the stress as now the combine operator has to watch the machine load in these reduced width areas and compensate for it.
 

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........teach your dog to bark when you start leaving a little too much
empty cutter bar........




........and you are right.....way harder to tend the mark out the
left side....... a little too much clutter from a 'Retro' cab........


 

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With the row spacings we cut up in QLD its a bit hard to keep a full comb, you'll see in my sorghum pics that there are...if I remember right, 6 rows in the 30ft head.

On the corners it looks like you could easily fit another row in. I tryed that, and it just doesn't work. alot harder to keep all 7 rows in then the 6.
 

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I just can't get my dog to climb up there. All they want to do is run along side all day. Not only that she would probably pant and slobber all over the window until I wouldn't be able to see out.
 

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More training........
..........the ladder on the 1670 makes it a snap
for Kirby to get to the cab........here he is keeping an eye on the
right side of the platform for me..........




.........when the going gets real tough.........take two along........


 

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I don't have a problem with my blue healer, or my border collie but my black lab would get jealous. and Three dogs, that would be way to many.
 
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