[philonthefarm]

im looking lots at a contour drill, later 1 or maybe c2 , im looking to fall aply 75 %of fert and go in with seed and starter blend , the question i have is , are any of you guys running the three inch ribbon opener on ten inch spacings ? if so how do you like em , any other tips to look out for , or to stay away from ? tia.

 

[northernfarmer]

if U have lots of straw.. don't. get the 12'' spacing.. my morris dealer wont sell a 10'' with the split boot in our area, because of the amount of straw.. and there are lots of places that grow more straw then us.

 

[Victor Redance]

Why fert in fall?





VR

 

[V876]

Why fert in fall?





VR

Cheaper usually, less material handling in the spring able to get away with single shoot no chance of seed burn.

 

[Victor Redance]

Why not get double shoot better fert placement, we didn't think we would like the extra material handling either but once we started doing it it really isn't that bad.




VR

 

[NESASK]

Why not get double shoot better fert placement, we didn't think we would like the extra material handling either but once we started doing it it really isn't that bad.




VR

If you are wet like us, putting N down in the fall is the way to go. It blackens the soil just enough to help with dry down for spring seeding. Its one less thing to handle in the spring and we also believe it helps with getting oxygen into the dirt.

 

[tswanson]

12" inch spacing is really touchy throwing dirt with a 3" opener so a 10" would be terrible. Using a wider or paired row opener, these drills work really well in good standing stubble where trash is not an issue as dirt throw is minimized by the stubble. In loose soil the front row is pretty much covered over unless you go under 4 mph and sometimes even then. If trash is not an issue for you, and you want 10" spacing over 12", you'd have to use the narrowest opener you can. There's tons of discussion about these drills here if you search for it.

 

[philonthefarm]

i like the idea of getting a percentage of the work done in the fall, if we get the opportunity , otherwise fert is generally cheaper then , i dont have an abundance of help in the spring ,and has anyone seeded into worked land with the soil throwing the same , .please dont take this as a smart ass comment but , it seems logical to me that looser soil in the spring would peel less than a stale high moisture content dirt that is firmer in the top layer , if the dirt crumbles more then it would throw less ?

 

[tswanson]

Loose soil throws way more. You don't have standing stubble anymore and that really affects how much dirt you move. I can't seed into pea stubble as fast as into good barley or durum stubble. This is with a 3.5 inch paired row. It's not that they throw a ridiculous amount of dirt compared to a traditional hoe drill, it's just that one packs directly behind the shank and one packs at the back of the drill.