I had both. 3416 going on a trip to PA next day or 2, maybe I'll have it back in 09. we are pretty well oil machine. we also have a lot of good support from our local dealers, suppliers and grain companies. and we work real hard, but we never work real late, unless we do a around the clock to beat some weather. until I change to a 32 row planter, or back to 16 , I'll probably use a 12 row corn head. hope to get a 45' flex draper for 09.