CR8090 or CIH 8230?
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Cr 8090 because its better.
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We're new Deere combine owners, currently own twos680s and two 8230s, we're harvesting at least a mile an hour faster with less loss with the deere's than with the cases,
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I feel the CR would give you better all round capacity and samples. I can't really think of a type of crop where they struggle, but we don't have much variety in OZ either.
Dealers support for both brands should be a big factor in decision making.
Dealers support for both brands should be a big factor in decision making.
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Both are good machines and I ran both last winter harvest alongside each other, I would say the 8090 is a little easier to set up, capacity was similar, the 8230 requires less daily maintenance re greasing and no add blue, has fewer belts/ chains etc , none of those little angle gearboxes either. The 8230 also has deslug, folding auger, bin shutoff and pivoting spout. I found I used the spout a lot especially when trying to get that last bit of grain into a full chaser bin. Having said all that I still quoted on bother harvesters when I purchased my 8230 a few weeks back, my decision was made easy when NH couldn't,t supply me the machine I wanted. Cheers.
I don't believe you
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Care to explain why you don't believe me?
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Are you running power limit with those machines all the time? How about fuel consumption per acre, how does that compare?
As to the original poster's question: Both of those machines will do a similar job from what I have seen so if starting from scratch I would go with the dealer that you feel will give the best support.
Decided this summer to trade off 1680 and keep 2388 so here are my observations looking at both red and yellow. Pros and cons by my opinion so take them as you wish;
8120/8230/9120/9230
Pro's
Complete hydraulic drive. Allows rotor to reverse when plugged.
Front end drove off single shaft to gearboxes.
Unloading auger more versatile options.
Open back end for rocks to exit machine.
Less grease points.
Cons
One large rotor so more to move, req HP.
Internal chopper.
A ton of hydraulic lines.
Feeder system after clearing slug
9080/9090/8080/8090
Pros
Twin rotors for centrifugal force and HP utilization. Also eliminates sieve loading on one side.
Belt drive makes for more aggressive threshing.
Easy to set.
Superior chopper.
Once feeder is unplugged, re-introduction of crop can be feathered in with rotor engaged.
Price.
Cons
More moving parts. More belts.
Twin rotors and chopper don't take rocks as well.
Unplugging of rotor more difficult.
Cab and controls not as fancy.
There are a few other differences but these are the ones I noticed most. In the end gonna give a 2011, 9080 with 300 step hours a try. Wanted a machine pre def. Also opted for new Macdon D 65. Biggest factor in decision - DEALER!
8120/8230/9120/9230
Pro's
Complete hydraulic drive. Allows rotor to reverse when plugged.
Front end drove off single shaft to gearboxes.
Unloading auger more versatile options.
Open back end for rocks to exit machine.
Less grease points.
Cons
One large rotor so more to move, req HP.
Internal chopper.
A ton of hydraulic lines.
Feeder system after clearing slug
9080/9090/8080/8090
Pros
Twin rotors for centrifugal force and HP utilization. Also eliminates sieve loading on one side.
Belt drive makes for more aggressive threshing.
Easy to set.
Superior chopper.
Once feeder is unplugged, re-introduction of crop can be feathered in with rotor engaged.
Price.
Cons
More moving parts. More belts.
Twin rotors and chopper don't take rocks as well.
Unplugging of rotor more difficult.
Cab and controls not as fancy.
There are a few other differences but these are the ones I noticed most. In the end gonna give a 2011, 9080 with 300 step hours a try. Wanted a machine pre def. Also opted for new Macdon D 65. Biggest factor in decision - DEALER!
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It was straight cutting barley with green straw the S680s just handled it better and the rotors on the 8120s plug way to easy and I have always thought that, fuel consumption was the same 1.4 gal ac, I was surprised with the outcome as well, but I think the Deere's do have a little more hp.
Just because of your name, and its not that I don't believe that the deere went faster, its that 1 MPH is a HUGE gap. Got a perdickty buddy that ran a Case last year and is running a Deere s680 this year, ill be interested in his results. Harvest is barely at 1% in the NE right now, ill know more in three weeks
Educate yourself...NH uses rethrashers and dumps in the cleaning area. It has been that way since CR took over TR. And since case used NH frame and concept for their combine they also have it. Actually the shoe on the CR and case came from the TX.
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Running 8120 beside S680 this year first Deere on our farm for more than 15 years. I am a big fan of the Case, but we have been frustrated with the cleaning capacity on our Case especially in small seed crops like Canola, Flax and Canary. We measured losses in our first Canola field 40 foot swath running around 50BPA spent half a day weighing losses. Could not get 8120 over 3.5 MPH without starting to see significant losses. 680 at 5MPH less than 1% losses. All other crops I thought they would be comparable but the 680 has performed well. I expect the 8230 would be more apples to apples in Cereals. The Case needs a longer cleaning area, end of story.... If the ever put one in I would probably go back.
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What settings are you running in the Deere's in canola??
This seems so odd to me, because we have really nice capacity in cereals and canola with our 9070. Not going to go out there and say that we are smoking any deeres or anything but information from friend to friend with deeres it all seems very comparable. When our combine has the same sieve as a case, why is case having problems with throw over? I do understand that the twin rotors lay a nice even spread on the pan but how could it be that drastically better than case?
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