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I am thinking about hiring a plane to do my wheat but I have a high line wire running across the field. Will they split the field at the wire or will they reject the field?
 

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probably fly under the line.
Lol A good pilot will fly under the line but the super safe pilot we have around here is pure chicken ****t..already had a pilot make a mess in my field. Split the field and then never came back to finish it. Now I gotta find a ground rig to finish the job. problem is I don't know where he started or quit
 

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Old time crop dusters would do allot of things that the ones of today won't. Lots of reasons, insurance, gov regulations and plane costs are all running sky high. We totally give up on the planes around here, they don't do a good job. We ground rig everything.
 

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Old time crop dusters would do allot of things that the ones of today won't. Lots of reasons, insurance, gov regulations and plane costs are all running sky high. We totally give up on the planes around here, they don't do a good job. We ground rig everything.
That's about where we are at here too. I am about to throw in the towel on planes. Makes no sense to me why we have so much potential with planes, that we can't get it together.
 

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For fungicides I have high lines right threw many of my fields. It drifts far enough I don't worry about it.

In parts of the country, the windmills are not something to be messed with. Theer is a lot more things in the sky that can kill you.

Either buy ur own plane or a new Hagie... Don't blame them until u are the one that will be putting thier life on the line for your crop.... Don't complain about it.
 

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Gee whiz ...the pilot will not risk his life and business to get you another hundred bushels.
What a chicken ****.
Sarcasm off.
Gary
Farm 4000 acres.
27 years pilot. 10000 hours. B727. BE99.100.200.350. HS748. CL215. DHC6.
 

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Gee whiz ...the pilot will not risk his life and business to get you another hundred bushels.
What a chicken ****.
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Gary
Farm 4000 acres.
27 years pilot. 10000 hours. B727. BE99.100.200.350. HS748. CL215. DHC6.
If going under the lines is too dangerous then why not split the field at the high line wires and make a headland on both sides? Or is that too tough for the safety nazis of America
 

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An old saying is "THERE'S OLD PILOTS AND BOLD PILOTS, BUT NO OLD BOLD PILOTS", which was told to me by a pilot with well over 10,000 hours.
 

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Lol yeah isn't that the truth. But I guess I'll have a couple drinks tonight and forget about it. Although I am starting to get curious how other countries do things. Iran? Peru? Russia? Scottland?
 

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A spray pilot I know, who got his training in Viet Nam, refuses to fly close to Obama's taxpayer subsidized wind farm. And I don't blame him a bit! It's going to be fun listening to all those land owners who wanted a turbine so bad complain about not being able to control the musk thistles.
 

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Is this one of those really high steel tower transmission type lines or a typical wood pole power line ?. I know around here they spray over power lines along a road for example and do whatever headland passes they deem required parallel to the power line to cover it all. This by the way is more about spraying for birtha army worms or the like in canola and will cover various farmers fields all in one go so more spraying and far less turning required to get the job done. Spraying for weeds is far more of a hassle because of drift and so forth.
 

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A spray pilot I know, who got his training in Viet Nam, refuses to fly close to Obama's taxpayer subsidized wind farm. And I don't blame him a bit! It's going to be fun listening to all those land owners who wanted a turbine so bad complain about not being able to control the musk thistles.
Vietnam was a war that was designed to not be won. The war profiteers are the only people who won the Vietnam War. I do feel bad for the soldiers of that war though. It would be like playing a game of football and then after the game you find out the refs were paid to make sure you lose.
Is this one of those really high steel tower transmission type lines or a typical wood pole power line ?. I know around here they spray over power lines along a road for example and do whatever headland passes they deem required parallel to the power line to cover it all. This by the way is more about spraying for birtha army worms or the like in canola and will cover various farmers fields all in one go so more spraying and far less turning required to get the job done. Spraying for weeds is far more of a hassle because of drift and so forth.
It's a solo wood power line with two wires, similar to what's on the side of the road.
 

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I happen to run a aerial application business. There are a lot of factors involved in the decision to fly a field like that. If its fungicide or insecticide I would venture to say no problem it will be done. IF its herbicide its different. Things that affect it would be. How big the field is. Whats all the way around the field. If there are crops that can be damaged it makes it more difficult. Are there anymore power lines and or other obstructions that would affect the flight of the plane. The height of the power lines makes a difference. If its a smaller feeder line dont expect or embrace the idea of them flying under a power line that is around fifteen or lower to the ground. the plane is ten foot tall so it doesnt leave much room for error. I don't think you want to watch a dead man being hauled out of your field. If you have obstructions don't ***** about it costing more. Here in the area I'm running due to taxes and other costs we burn roughly five dollars of fuel a minute. The more a plane has to fly around the more it should cost to do a field. Never call a pilot a chicken **** you may not like the job he is doing but more than likely he can do your job but you wont be able to do his. Plus its easy for him to take pictures of the **** job a lot of people are doing with ground rigs. We collect them for fun. I will tell you to that there is no way that a ground rig can get a good of a kill with roundup as an airplane. I ran custom ground rigs for twenty years I can tell you this is absolutely true.
 

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We had a pilot clip a line last year he didnt go down but we had to pay 2500 for a new power line then we had to do a complete turbine over haul. an easy $150000 plus we loss the use of the plane for two weeks and had to rent a plane to replace it.
 

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I was certainly not complaining that the pilots don't want to risk their lives. IMO just flying a crop duster is risking your life. I was simply pointing out that the pilots of today are different than those of the 60's and 70's. I laid out several reasons on top of the obvious that flying under wires is dangerous. Still as I watch the crop dusters pull up over the wires and miss them by 20' or so it makes me wonder if at times going under might be safer. At least you could see the dang things.

In this area during the 60's alfalfa seed was a huge crop, most nights there would be 10-15 dusters flying in about a 30,000 acre valley. There were several mid air collisions, multiple power wire strikes. One caught his landing gear on the power wires and set it down in my Grandparents yard. Also had a neighbor killed, she couldn't sleep and went out into her living room and was watching tv when a crop duster hit the house, killed her while everyone else in the house survived in the bedrooms.
 
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