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Sport I have a Challanger 545B with cvt and loader and after running it even though I have a second loader tractor with powershift the second loader will be the last loader tractor without a cvt. I prefer to run the transmission in the economy foot pedal mode with it set to run ~15mph at 1600 rpm in low range. THis allows you to move very slow at low rpms. Nice thing is when you are working on an incline in pedal mode when you stop with it in gear it stops incline or no incline. Great for loading bales on truck or dumping in a feed truck as you don't have to worry about rolling into truck. If you've ran a pay loader you can do the same thing with the cvt just don't need the brakes to hold you when you stop.
 

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We have a John Deere 7920 with IVT and the shuttle shifter. Depending on transmission mode it can be a bit difficult to do loader work. The engine tends to rev up needlessly for some reason when in auto mode, unless you go in full manual mode and manually set the throttle. On Deere's IVT the default is to link the forward and reverse speeds, but for loader work you want them set separately or equal (can be easily changed in the computer). It's a bit scary to go 4 mph backwards, then hit forwards and have it lurch up to 7 mph.

In automatic implement mode, I find it's best to just drop the speed to minimum before hitting the shuttle shifter to keep the engine from revving and lurching the tractor, which kind of defeats the purpose of the shuttle shifter in my opinion. So like I said, when we need to do loader work or snow plowing, I find manually setting the throttle works the best. Certainly if I had a foot throttle I would always use manual mode for loader work.

I think Deere could do a better software job tuning the IVT for loader work in my opinion. Haven't driven a recent model, so maybe it's better now.
 

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6420 ivt

I have a 6420 with IVT. I can't imagine a transmission better suited to loader work. I don't know how the 7000 series is set up but on mine I leave it in economy mode almost all the time unless doing PTO work. I set the throttle somewhere in the lower half of its range because it will set the maximum RPM the engine will rev up to. For most loader work 1/3 to 1/2 throttle delivers plenty of power anyways as there is not usually much speed involved so plenty of torque is available without excessive engine RPM. I drive it like a car and use the brake to stop during low speed loader work. That is nice because if I need to inch ahead or back the tractor will only move in the direction I want it to even when on a slope. The forward/reverse shuttling is perfectly smooth.

As far as other options I have front axle, loader, and cab suspension. I really like the axle and loader suspension for the work I do (cattle) as it really smooths out the bumps and takes a lot of stress off the loader and tractor frame because there are no sharp jolts when hitting bumps. The cab suspension is nice for comfort but would be the one I would do without if I had to pick one to get rid of. It works very well though, just would be the one I would give up if I HAD to.
 

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My Dad has a 6420 IVT. Its has a 640 NSL loader and MFWD and its base model otherwise. He hates it, I love it.

I operate it in eco mode except when doing pto work. I leave the hand throttle at idle and use the foot throttle. It is super easy to smoothly use the tractor for everything like this, especially loader work. Foot throttle, brake and LHR for moving, super easy and very smooth. The best part is that the tractor has full hydraulic power at idle, so there is no need to rev it up.

Dad operates it in auto mode, sets the hand throttle about 1300 rpm, and used the clutch (inching pedal) for everything. He cant wrap his head around the idea of rolling the ball instead for jamming the little range lever all around like his old powershift. Old habits die hard I guess...

Drive one before you buy it, they are awesome for loader work and haying! You will have to learn to drive differently. If you don't think you can learn that, then likely just leave them be.
 

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Sport I have a Challanger 545B with cvt and loader and after running it even though I have a second loader tractor with powershift the second loader will be the last loader tractor without a cvt. I prefer to run the transmission in the economy foot pedal mode with it set to run ~15mph at 1600 rpm in low range. THis allows you to move very slow at low rpms. Nice thing is when you are working on an incline in pedal mode when you stop with it in gear it stops incline or no incline. Great for loading bales on truck or dumping in a feed truck as you don't have to worry about rolling into truck. If you've ran a pay loader you can do the same thing with the cvt just don't need the brakes to hold you when you stop.
X2, I also run in pedal mode all the time around the yard. Couldn't imagine running anything else. In the field I run the joystick mode and use the sv1 and sv2, pretty sweet
 

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No other transmission out there can compare with the Fendt/AGCO CVT in the pedal mode for loader work. And then switch to the joystick mode for tillage, planting, or grain cart work. The fact that the AGCO CVT is not sharing oil with the hydraulic system should be a definite advantage over the others.
 

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I am on my fourth CNH tractor with a CVT, all have had loaders. I wouldn't get a loader tractor without one. You are able to run the engine so it only revs when it needs power or just set it for 1400 RPM or something like that, keeps it very quiet in the cab. It works great for inching up to something with the bucket or pallet forks. For picking stones you won't have powershift up and down for every rock, just pull the lever. The New Holland I have now has slightly different controls than my CaseIH units had, both are very operator friendly(for a new tractor). I have operated a Fendt and a Challenger and although the controls are somewhat more confusing and poorly laid out I liked the responsiveness of the CVT much better. One would likely get used to the controls fairly quickly with any machine.

I think all loader tractors should have a CVT....wait, after driving the Claas Xerion I think ALL tractors should have a CVT!;)
 

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I have a loader on a Fendt 716 and wouldn't run any other way. I can control direction and speed with different motions of the joystick and control the loader with the buttons on it all with one hand never having to leave the joystick.
 

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How much loader work are you doing with these tractors? I can't imagine going back to a loader tractor.
Our loader tractors get used almost on a daily basis the only time the loaders come off is for haying so we are not stressing the front axle. As much as I would love to have a payloader or a zoom boom we can't justify having single purpose machine just sitting around
 

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Our loader tractors get used almost on a daily basis the only time the loaders come off is for haying so we are not stressing the front axle. As much as I would love to have a payloader or a zoom boom we can't justify having single purpose machine just sitting around
When telehandlers first came on the scene here, in the early 1980's nobody thought they could justify one. Loader tractors tend to just load, so you might as well have a specialist machine fore the job. IIRC a 100 engine hp tractor costs more than a 100hp telehandler before you have bought the loader to go on it. But the telehandler will run rings around the loader tractor and I mean blow it into the weeds.

Obviously it doesn't work for everyone, but if the bulk of the work your loader tractor does is loading, you might want to look into something specialised. "My" tractor has a 165hp engine compared to the 100hp one in the Manitou and I would be surprised is the tractor had a loader on it that it could manage to do half the work the telehander could on a lot more fuel.
 

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Most loader tractors don't use the clutch. That's what the shuttle shifter is for.

Willy, most North American farmers use tractors with loaders instead of telehandlers. Tradition I suppose, or maybe they are just cheaper and get us more utility.
A tractor and loader will cost more than a farm spec, equivalent engine horsepower telehandler and struggle to manage half the work when loading.
 
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