[jbweston]

Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

It is my understanding that the except for engine, the R62 and R72 are the same combine. What else is different? Anything? Maybe final drives? How can you tell?

So I was wondering, is the turbo Deutz in the early R62 the same engine that is in the early R72? If so, any differences other than a turn of the screw?

All that to ask, can a person turn a turbo Deutz R62 into a "R72" by turning the fuel screw?

What else would need beefed up? Thanks. Just trying to find my best bang for my buck and something that will walk with at least a 30 ft head in good soybeans.

 

[ru4gleaner2]

Re: Deutz Engine in R62 and R72- Power and capacit

jbweston,

I believe the 2 biggest differences between a 72 and 62 is horsepower and bin capacity. Obviously you have more horsepower but the bin holds 30 more bushels also. There could be some small things here and there but as far as other capacity items like feeder house, cleaning area and clean grain elevator are all the same.

I'm not familiar enough with that Duetz engine to say how easy it is to turn HP up. I would imagine it could be done.

 

[greencountry]

Re: Deutz Engine in R62 and R72- Power and capacit

jb, I believe you are right. You really should have pump checked out anyway after all the early machines are 15+ years old and how many times since then has the fuel changed lubricity. Yea bigger bin, 4 groove main drive belt and thats about it. You can put 4 groove belt on a 62 and I believe it is cheaper. Have pump turned up, then change them decals

 

[medicineman]

Re: Deutz Engine in R62 and R72- Power and capacit

I have heard that as long as you have the "turbo" Deutz you can get 300 and even up to 330 HP out of them by resetting the pump. The 4 groove main belt on our R-70 lost the outside strand when some straw went through the pulley. The belt lasted 2 more years with the 3 remaining strands. The heavy final drives sometimes were ordered on the R62's but if it doesn't have them then I would perhaps not add any more capacity to the bin. Also it is nice to have the 30.5 x 32 tires for load carrying capacity. The main thing is to not travel more than 6 or 8 mph when your bin is full because of the heavy strain on the final drives and the main belt etc.
The deutz is easier on fuel than the Cummins bt make sure to keep the cooling fins blown out regularly and check the cooling fan blades. If they are sharp on the leading edges they maybe ready for replacement and this is quite costly, about the same price as a new radiator in a liquid cooled combine.

 

[worn]

Re: Deutz Engine in R62 and R72- Power and capacit

I'm new to this forum, and fairly new to Gleaners, I have an early R-62 (Ser. # 17511), and I am having several issues. The first one being is lack of horse power, I don't have turbo's. Is it possible to add turbos, or is it worth it? Other issues are dirty samples, and grain out the back. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Right now I'm putting in a new floor in the rear conveyor, new poly chains both feeder and conveyor, and a new poly clean grain elevator chain.

 

[canfarmer]

Re: Deutz Engine in R62 and R72- Power and capacit

We had a newer deutz r62 (non turbo bigger displacement) It was totally gutless. Cummins would do a good 25% more grain in a day.

 

[silverhusker]

Re: Deutz Engine in R62 and R72- Power and capacit

Cant help you with the turbos or horsepower problem because both of our Gleaners have cummins, but for the dirty sample, what is your rotor speed running at? You may very well be running it too fast, whats your concave at? For the grain out the back problem that has to be your accelerator rolls. If they are too badly worn they will not propel grain down fast enough and the fan will catch it and blow it out. To see if these are worn slide a pencil inbetween them and if it goes all the way inbetween them freely they are worn out and will need replaced.

 

[worn]

Re: Deutz Engine in R62 and R72- Power and capacit

Yes, I forgot to say that I am also replacing the rolls with poly. I run the rotor at about 900. For me a 40 bushel wheat crop is huge, so I'm running a 36' draper header to try and keep the machine full. It does a better job when it's full, but I can't always keep it full with hills and wash-outs and such.

 

[gleanerjunkie]

Re: Deutz Engine in R62 and R72- Power and capacit

worn-

I would try slowing your rotor speed down. We have ran gleaner rotaries for years now and run ours between 700-800. This year i have been anywhere from 680 to 730 and our R72 has been doing a good job. I also have a hard time keeping the machine full with low yielding wheat but that rotor speed does a good job for me even with the machine not being full.

Matt

 

[worn]

Re: Deutz Engine in R62 and R72- Power and capacit

Thanks Matt, as soon as I get this thing back together I will try it. I think that before when I slowed the rotor down it got really dirty in the tank, but I can't remember.