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Dodge doesn't have an 'eco boost'. DEF freezes when the temperature gets cold enough, not the fault of the truck.Just curious if anyone else is having trouble with def fluid freezing up or other issues with these trucks?
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Sorry, I meant eco diesel.
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I would think its a problem with crysler. I bought one and no fixes yet. You don't dare leave it outside in the cold. Yes def fluid freezes but put a circulating heater on it or some type of heat on it when you plug it in. I'm not happy with the set up one bit. If it wasn't new, i would take the tank and spray foam it and wrap a string heat tape around it or run a hose off the rad around it or something.
Just came back from the KY farm show the Ram guy said that they are at full production and are sold out I hope most people live in Florida or Texas .I have a 2500 diesel and a half ton with a Hemi .I will Waite a few years before I get a half ton diesel because it's -35 c this morning.
actually that's pretty much what the semi's we have run to keep the def tank thawed, in the cases where it doesn't the def doesn't get called for by the computer until it is thawed so it doesn't throw codes, I'm surprised dodge didn't work with this theory...
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I just bought one e few weeks ago. Averaging over 20 mpg on gravel. It's cold here in Manitoba and those trucks have been selling like hot cakes. So far I'm really liking the truck over my last hemi. Time will tell I guess
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Fuel Consumption Search | Office of Energy Efficiency
Remember when people would ***** and complain that the fuel consumption ratings were too low, did not reflect real world conditions?
Well...
This is one government agency that was actually listening!
They went to something they call five cycle testing as opposed to two.
My truck is rated at 3% MORE fuel than my truck has actually averaged in 130,000 km.
Very impressive NRC.
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So here is the problem, truck is excellent, milage is everything they preach, def fluid tanks are heated, but only 40 min after you start the engine is it thawed. With in seconds of starting it, (outside, plugged in) the fault codes start and you are done until dealer hooks to laptop and clears the codes. If def tank was heated during the night when plugged in, I think it would be ok. I'm warning you to not leave it for more then 2 hrs with engine turned off, or you will walk.
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Is that your own personal experience or second hand knowledge?
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My own experience.
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Conclusion : a diesel with urea does not start and drive away , lets say after idling for 10 min in a minus 30 . With urea system.
I find this hard to believe
Mercedes , BMW , ford and gm sell lots of diesel and none of them starts and drive's in a cold cause urea is frozen???
I find this hard to believe
Mercedes , BMW , ford and gm sell lots of diesel and none of them starts and drive's in a cold cause urea is frozen???
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I would say you have a problem there, better get it checked out.
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We obviously do not get as cold as the west , but we have touched -27c (+ wind chill to -36c) here a couple nights and our 2014 Ram 1500 ECODIESEL has not failed to start and run properly yet . It has never been plugged in , or parked inside , the only thing the wife does is starts it for 5 mins or so before leaving so the seats are warm .
I took it last week to the Louisville Farm Show , it consumed 198.2 L of diesel , 4.8 L of DEF in 2446 km . Set cruise at 115 to 120 km/hr depending on HWY limit + back and forth to show 4 times from the motel.
Round Trip avg = 8.1 L / 100km
= 34.8 miles / CDN Gal
= 28.97 miles / US Gal
Truck has just under 25,000 km on it .
We actually really like this truck , only issues so far are the sensors in rear bumper have been replaced .
When towing a trailer I find the mileage drops very fast , a V-nose 2 sled snowmobile trailer will have this truck to slightly less than 20 mpg cdn , but it handles it fine . Any trailer bigger than that and we take my 3500 .
I took it last week to the Louisville Farm Show , it consumed 198.2 L of diesel , 4.8 L of DEF in 2446 km . Set cruise at 115 to 120 km/hr depending on HWY limit + back and forth to show 4 times from the motel.
Round Trip avg = 8.1 L / 100km
= 34.8 miles / CDN Gal
= 28.97 miles / US Gal
Truck has just under 25,000 km on it .
We actually really like this truck , only issues so far are the sensors in rear bumper have been replaced .
When towing a trailer I find the mileage drops very fast , a V-nose 2 sled snowmobile trailer will have this truck to slightly less than 20 mpg cdn , but it handles it fine . Any trailer bigger than that and we take my 3500 .
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No full size pickup is going to match that.
You follow those ratings, it's just your trip was likely over 98% highway driving
A bit surprised DEF use is 2.4%, I thought it would be less.
Mind you, it's still just 0.196 L/100km.
By chance can you read how much it uses all warmed up just sitting idling, air/heater/lights off?
I have a VW car that can, just wondered if any others do.
My SWAG would be 0.6 L/hr on your truck.
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Well.......this is our story, We bought one, and on day 2 it froze up while we were at a hockey game. Yes it was cold out. The problem is, once the def is frozen, it does not allow you to run it because the codes are on before you can even finish starting it. It will not freeze if you are driving or leave truck run, but its not a great system in the dodge truck if sitting outside.. So after talking with several owners and different dealers, Yes they have a problem. The suggestion from the dealer is to not over fill the def tank, as the fill hose at the top, will freeze and never thaw out until in a heated shop, The def in the tank will thaw if you leave run but if the code is flashing, and you can not get it to go out by restarting the truck after a respectable amount of time, then all you have to do is get a tow truck to haul it to any dodge dealer, and they will conveniently diagnose the problem and give you a loaner, provided you are the first one in the door. .............so fast forward to 8000 km on the truck, I filled it with def for the first time, the truck then went for 2 and half hour drive to regina before being shut off and plugged in. -22c on friday. It got towed to a dodge dealer and still sitting there, no loaner because long weekend. Still like the truck, but there is an issue with def. Gas station across street from hotel said he gets real busy with eco diesels not running. AND only a dealer can reset the def system. Perhaps its just this truck? not according to salesman now after a cold snap.
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