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I have had my 2013 wilsons dented on the slopes way to often . Yesterday was final straw. Somebody will be paying for employees that don't respect someone else's property! How is your experience with probes?
Elevator Probe Denting Trailers
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Richardson gave me reflective tape to put on the top of the trailer so they know where to probe. if you have a two hopper trailer you should be able to park so they can probe both hoppers without moving and they probe over the trap. none of this probing the back twice or more.
I know of guys that pull right by probe and have them hand sample. It is up to the farmer and elevator to agree on representative sample so if the farmer wants his load hand sampled he should be able to get it. The CGC will not give an 'official' grade on a probe sample so why should a farmer accept one?
These new elevators should have been built and certified with a cross cut sampler on the inward side, just like the shipping side. When elevator ship and want a certified grade and dockage the CGC requires a sample taken with a certified crosscut to make sure the elevator gets an accurate sample and is paid on that accurate representative sample. But a farmer is suppose to be happy with what ever the elevator gets from a probe that they are operating.
As an example: An elevator can miss some heated in a load of canola, with the probe, but then catch it on the crosscut when shipping and then every truck from then on, is hand sampled at the elevator's will. If they aren't getting a true representative with probe why are they allowed to use it at all, maybe they are missing some of the better quality, cleaner grain?
These new elevators should have been built and certified with a cross cut sampler on the inward side, just like the shipping side. When elevator ship and want a certified grade and dockage the CGC requires a sample taken with a certified crosscut to make sure the elevator gets an accurate sample and is paid on that accurate representative sample. But a farmer is suppose to be happy with what ever the elevator gets from a probe that they are operating.
As an example: An elevator can miss some heated in a load of canola, with the probe, but then catch it on the crosscut when shipping and then every truck from then on, is hand sampled at the elevator's will. If they aren't getting a true representative with probe why are they allowed to use it at all, maybe they are missing some of the better quality, cleaner grain?
one local elevator has taken the relief valves out of there probe if you watch your air gauge when they probe sometimes it will go up as much as 3000lbs!!!!!! and it is not uncommon for them too knock the coffee right out of the cup holder on the dash....
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I called up the elevator with a lit fuse after seeing our aluminum floors all banged up, mid call realized the guy I was going to chew a new one was likely grading my samples. Kindly asked them to quit ****ing up the floor panels and there hasn't been any new marks yet.
We have had slope sheets punctured by the probe. Pretty obvious when the trail of grain starts at the probe and ends at the pit. After they pay for re-slope, the guys have been easier on the probe.
I also make sure my trailers have the "Probe Here" stickers on the top edge. That way the probe operator can't claim ignorance.
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I also make sure my trailers have the "Probe Here" stickers on the top edge. That way the probe operator can't claim ignorance.
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My 2013 Lode-King has stickers on the top rail that say probe here. Wether or not they can see them I'm not sure. I did have to say something to the new guy on the probe one day when I could feel the probe hit the slopes. Luckily it just left a slight mark and not a bad scrape.
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Thread timing!
Funny, I was sitting behind a trailer the other day watching the probe work and this thread's very thought came to mind, how do they avoid trailer damage?
Probing only over slide gates where it's the deepest is all I could think of, avoiding angle panels.
The two local terminals have two different types of probes, one small diameter tube sucks only from the end, the other much large square tube affair is pushed into the grain then a slide gate setup with several ports lets grain flow in at several points at the same time. This looks like the one that could do the most damage.
I guess the probe operators could promise to put it in just a little.
Funny, I was sitting behind a trailer the other day watching the probe work and this thread's very thought came to mind, how do they avoid trailer damage?
Probing only over slide gates where it's the deepest is all I could think of, avoiding angle panels.
The two local terminals have two different types of probes, one small diameter tube sucks only from the end, the other much large square tube affair is pushed into the grain then a slide gate setup with several ports lets grain flow in at several points at the same time. This looks like the one that could do the most damage.
I guess the probe operators could promise to put it in just a little.
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I'll add, Tell you to pull ahead with the probe still in the truck and put a crease in the divider wall.
idiots.
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My virgin load with my new trailer a couple years ago and I swear the guy thought it was prom night all over again. Needless to say I went home and got the old rusty tandem for next load and drove away with the probe still in and broke all the sheer pins. Haven't had a mark in my trailers since.
and that's when you won the dockage award of the year?:54:
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That's got to be my biggest fear at the grain terminals since we got an aluminum trailer, the dreaded "Anal Probe" :40:
Watching them probe where they are not supposed to and go in too deep .....
Watching them probe where they are not supposed to and go in too deep .....
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We have an old single axle truck with a short wall box that primarily gets used to haul feed, pallets of chemical, water tank at spraying, gravel, and other miscellaneous loads of stuff. We have a grain endgate for it as well as a roll tarp holds about 325-350bu. On the odd occasion I have hauled the last bit of a bin to town with it if I'm picking up lumber of something, instead of running the tandem in, and then running in with single axle. The force they run that **** probe in has left dints in the floor of the box, bent the tarp hoops and the tarp ridge pole. I thought that to do that amount of damage they must just be looking out the window of the office and guessing as to where the probe is. Nope, nice fancy camera system I thought the young folk they have working at these elevators were suppose to be good with hand eye coordination from all the video games they play. I guess they never made it to the grain unloading and sampling level of farm simulator.
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Just the tip :22:
I haul with belt trailer and sitting in the seat feel the probe hit and watch the scale jump a little. It does have high sides and obviously the bottom of a Belt is much higher than a hopper over the traps so maybe the operator isn't used to it. The ones with the camera probably barely see the corn in it, not very deep. Don't think I can blame any damage on the probe though but the construction of a belt is a bit different/heavier than a hopper. Good for probe damage, bad for tare weight lol
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