[ebertfarms]

like i said smooth, its not that they don't teach it, i just don't pay attention, im sure if i start driving i'd find it quickly....but i don't. i usually spend quite a few weekends out on the country roads...i just can't remember right now. I don't know anyone from donovan so i can't really place it right away.

We'll see what happens, we're talking about keeping the combine for a couple more years until we get some more deere notes paid off, or waiting a couple years so we can go buy a semi for next year.


I said i didn't mean to offend anyone when i made that comment about autosteer guidance systems TX. We have the fertilizer company come out and do strip till on some bean fields, then we just go over it with the soil finisher in the spring. My dad has tried to follow them before and said the heck with it. I know about planting, but he just won't let me get in his seat yet since thats his "spot" We don't apply our own fertilizer, just have the local company do it...saves us a ton of time. I don't even know how they'd work if we had a terragator...i usually keep one sprayer operator pretty busy when he's putting down 28 for us.

 

[afxit]

kinzepower obviously you haven't watched the sts sit still at night when the going gets tough.. The 8010 easily will out last them late at night. Not trying to start a war but take the green shades off.

 

[crusty]

I dont know what your talking about with the sts shuting down at night, there is many many nights that we drive right through the night with our 9760 and 9860.

 

[smooth]

one thing i am not sure if anyone metioned but if your going from a 9600 to 50 or 60 series i am going to guess the 9600 doesn't have contour master so you need to convert the heads to be run on a 50 series and even more of single point on the 60 series. i would just update the heads and go to an 8 row corn head. i would guess you are running a 12 row planter and with an 8 row head staying with the planter will only bee off the planter 1 out of every 3 passes. most people can drive good enough that say 90% of the time the odd pass will be fine. So 10% of the 33% harvesting on the off rows mean that only 3.33% of the time that this is even an issue to worry about. so when it is that bad just harvest 4 rows, the increase capacity of the 8 row will way more than off set the difference of doing this. In my opinion a rotor combine(red or green) does a much better job when you can keep it full, don't think a 6 row will even come close to doing that.

 

[kinzepower]

Quote:kinzepower obviously you haven't watched the sts sit still at night when the going gets tough.. The 8010 easily will out last them late at night. Not trying to start a war but take the green shades off.

It's probably because the 8010 had a couple of service calls during the day and the farmer was FORCED to work through the night.
I could combine wheat in the rain if I wanted to. The stepped rotor cage feed accelerator work better in tough conditions than IH's design.
I have quit many times ahead of neighbours cutting wheat, but by 10 pm, I have over 10 000 bu of wheat off for the day so no need to run in the dark.

 

[afxit]

That must be nice to get 10,000 bu of wheat off for the day by 10. With th the 8010 at 8 pm we already have 16,000 bu of wheat in the bin with a 30 ft head.. And have you operated an 8010 or just hear say? I've been in the 60 series and have deere there is no comparison to what works better in tough conditions.. That IH will blow there deere out of the water.. Doesn't deere season start soon lol.

 

[cowgirlchaser]

Quote:

It's probably because the 8010 had a couple of service calls during the day and the farmer was FORCED to work through the night.
I could combine wheat in the rain if I wanted to. The stepped rotor cage feed accelerator work better in tough conditions than IH's design.
I have quit many times ahead of neighbours cutting wheat, but by 10 pm, I have over 10 000 bu of wheat off for the day so no need to run in the dark.

Here we go.......I know for a fact that a Deere can't begin to touch a 8010......In fact we have a guy here that farms 15,000+ acres that ran them side by side for 3 years.....2003-2006.....You know what ?......He now has 3 8010's and no Deeres....Thing is his son really liked the Deere and wanted to work because he liked it, but when it came down to it they didn't compare............

To each their own....Buy what you like it's your money your spending.....Just the facts are the facts........

 

[rltfarm]

The only reason they have three of those is cause there cheaper than deere's. We have a farmer around here who farms 20'000 acers and had afx 8010's 3 years ago i think 6 of them. They were cheaper thats why he got them. Now he has 9760's and 9860's.

 

[deereman]

We will probably go to a deere because we are sick of the same old nuts with the red one's.

 

[cowgirlchaser]

Quote:The only reason they have three of those is cause there cheaper than Deere's. We have a farmer around here who farms 20'000 acers and had afx 8010's 3 years ago i think 6 of them. They were cheaper thats why he got them. Now he has 9760's and 9860's.

Not saying price didn't play into the decision, but the facts are the facts. I seen them both in the field, and have talked to the owner and his operators. They both proved that the Deere can't keep up. In 200+ bupa corn with 12 row heads if he tried to keep up to the 8010 the Deere would start throwing corn out the back.

Just how much more are those Deere's???? If their that much it is a wonder anyone is buying them. The AFX 8010's are not cheap by any means. Our CIH salesman just sold 2 new AFX 8010's last week I believe. They have 4 stores and this one has sold 2 used and 2 new in the last 2 months. They have sold about 10 70/8010s in the last 6 months....maybe more. They have around 12 AFX 8010's out now. This is just this store. This may not be alot, but I think it is for this area.

The old Deere dealer keeps trying to get back in there, but he's got a long way to go. There service and parts can't compare to the CIH dealer. That was one reason. the big Deere dealer around here is the best salesman for Red Equipment......

Just something about a manufacturer that puts down the rotor for almost 30 years. Saying that they are junk. Then next thing you know they have one too....

.... Kinda shoots their credibility in the foot if you ask me.....

.....Maybe the old Deere's were not as good as they thought.....

Just my 2 cents though......

 

[kinzepower]

Well as muc as I am a Deere fan for many reasons, the facts are a 8010 can do more corn per hour than a 9860. The 9870 is a bit better I'm sure, but i wuld not bet the farm on the Deere lapping the 8010...that is until the 8010 breaks.

Here is a quote from a owner who owns both, quoted from the IH page on this forum...



"I have 9860 and 8010 8010 is a nicer combine cab is better, lots quieter,better vision , 4speed transmission, more cleaning area although sample is not really better. Deere unload is superior, Deere corn head seems to leave less on ground. feeding is better also, If you have someone who will keep case running it is a very nice machine. mine is 2005 and has all updates but it is always something wrong with it. maybe 7010 is better. I traded 2003 that caught on fire nearly everyday plus control pressure plus whatever else could go wrong for 2005 they said they had the bugs worked out and it is somewhat better at least it doesn't catch on fire. but it is far from reliable. 9860 missed one day this year with a flat. the 8010 missed several days waiting on parts etc. fuel consumption is very close on either machine, Deere looks more complicated with all the belts but it works. Iam not a case basher either i have ran all case for a many of years but the 8010 is the reason the 9860 is on our farm. I would much rather see machine run well i did not buy it so i would have something to complain about I just wanted a decent product and mine is definitely not that. Good luck in whatever you do!!! "


As far as a class 7 combine goes our 9760 has been rock solid and not let us down in the field. I would not think a 7010 is going to get by us in corn either, but I would love to try for fun.
BUT...breakdowns are a biatch, you have men and equipment sitting there for an unplanned stoppage = big money wasted.
I would trade a slight speed advantage off ANY day for the ability to go all day as planned.
Oh well, it's just my opinion, and it's worth what you paid for it.