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I am looking for a few tips from someone with some experience growing fall rye, I have never grown it and would like to try some this year.

What fert rate do guys normally use? Was thinking 70lbs of N split 50/50 ESN and about 40lbs of Phos.

If you graze cattle on there in the fall does it affect winter kill? or reduce yield next year?

I am West of #2 Hwy and would like to seed last week of Aug is there any benefit to seeding earlier? or is there such a thing a too early.

What about weed control? Spray this fall or spring or don't spray at all? Fungicide?

Any advise would be greatly appreciated, Thanks
 

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think that much N and that early a seeding in that area will leave you with too much straw/lodge issues next yr - unless you pasture it. Guess this depends bit on variety - I have certified musketeer for sale and know that the case with this variety. A bit of potash not a bad idea. If you seed this early in good conditions you will need very little and cheap weed control - probably bit of 24d in late sept unless winter comes real early.
 

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i would like to try some too how heavy do you seed it and can it grow to much in the fall and winter kill if seeded next week
 

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Would seem very hard to winterkill rye even though do think you jumping the gun a bit seeding next wk. Assume some of these early seeders may be dealing with land that hailed out and/or flooded out(did not get seeded in spring)? With this the case would be cautious on amt of N put down with seed for straw/lodging reasons noted before. Guess if you do plant this early think you could cut seeding rate a bit - In any higher rainfall areas with good seeding conditions 1.5b/a lots. If you need seed I have lots in Alberta.
 

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I apply 60lbs of N, 30P, 15K, 8 S. rye is very winter hardy. I grow Hazlet to straight cut it. We haven't grazed it but we do silage it. Hazlet is a semi dwarf if you're worried about straw.
 

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I'd like to see over 50bu/ac but if you don't have early season moisture don't expect too much. Your poorest yields will be on rye stubble. It fits in our rotation, it's not for everyone.
 

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I've grown rye for quite a few years. Not to many acres each year between 70-150, as we only seed it on our worst sandiest land. With rye I get a 45 bu crop, same land durum gets 25. Anyways our last rye crop is in swath and that land is going into grass for a while now.
 

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In west central ab you should be planning for 60+ net bushels/acre - our afsc 5yr avg is 78.5. However, with these yields do expect/plan for ergot and straight combining is a dream - not reality. Fall rye can not be covered in water for even one wk, but short of standing water it can handle excess moisture likely as good/better than anything else.
 

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Brazil how are your copper levels. We've seen a drastic decrease in ergot levels in spring wheat since addressing our copper level issues.
 

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CU levels .5-1.2ppm(0-6"). Did try some foliar cu snakeoil last yr on some and was not a diff on ergot. Would be curious what method you have tried for increasing cu and what levels you had to get to before noted a diff.
 

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copper won't help with ergot in rye, its seed and pollination is open. i have had good luck with rye in the past few years. i agree it does not like standing water at all. i have also found it will establish in the fall in a saline area but will die in the spring, on my farm rye has the least saline tolerance. i have been using esn and treated urea 50-50 broadcast in fall 100lbs of product each, thinking of trying super u this fall instead. also 100 lbs of s15 and about 25 lbs actual k. seed treated with cruiser max or insure cereal
 
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