Just traded my '08 2588 with 8 row head and 30' platform for a '09 9040 with the 98D 8 row head and 74C 35' platform. What can everyone tell me about the New Holland machine. Went this route because it's basically a Case 7120 (cleaning area, self-leveling sieves, bigger grain tank, faster unload, bigger cab, etc.) with a 7088 engine and I could get into it for the same price as a 7088. Am I going to be happy with my choice?
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You will be, if you want to be. Looking at the specs, yeah, it should be a good choice.
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I don't think there are many guys running 9040s on here. We have a 9060 they are very nice combines I don't think you will be disappointed I really like operating ours but it is pretty hard to pry my dad out of it.
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cyfarmer,
I don't know much about the New Hollands as we are Gleaner people but didn't know if you noticed this write up about a farmer that tested a New Holland 9040 in corn. Sounds like you will be OK pushing those heads with a 9040. Here's what the farmer wrote about his experience. He did a great job giving all positives and negatives.
Ok here goes.
The combine has capacity coming out the who knows what. WOW. I've never harvested corn above 5mph before, let alone 8mph. At 8mph the engine load was only 75%. Unloading on the go at 6.6mph the engine load was 91%. The combine certainly has power.
The cab is extremely spacious. Like lay down and take a nap behind the seat spacious. The controls are extremely well laid out and very easy to figure out. This is a very employee operator friendly combine. The computer screen is very colorful and with a bit of training of the eyes very easy to figure out what you need to know. There are 6 pages of fully customizable information for you to browse while harvesting. The window into the grain tank gives you a good view of the grain up to a half hopper full. The control stick I found a bit awkward at first but after a few hours if felt right. I'm not too fussy about the resume button for the auto header height and used manual controls much of the time.
The unload auger is another highlight of the machine. Its unload height is exceptional and the new 2008 boot is much better at funneling the grain in a controlled manner. The grain saver trap door at the end of the auger does a good job holding back the grain if the auger is nearly empty. When the auger is full it does a TERRIBLE JOB.
The engine compartment features a wide open design that seems to work very well for New Holland. With no sheet metal to catch residue everything stayed very clean with no build up of any kind. The oils are all side by side for very easy morning maintenance and the fuel tank is right at the top of the ladder.
The rear access ladder in my opinion is much too steep and I can see climbing it carrying a jug of oil would be a challenge. I guess I'm too used to the ladder on the rear of the 2388.
The grain hopper is very large. 315bu and the filling auger does a very good job at centering the pile. Some combines don't so I consider this a very important feature. The auger and extensions fold down very quickly and easily, though I wish there were a few more foot stands in the hopper to make taking down the corner braces a bit safer. The hopper cleans out very well after unloading so switching crops will not take a great deal of cleanout.
The feeder house is very wide, as wide as the dual rotors so they claim there is no bottle neck as in a single rotor machine funneling the crop down. I don't buy it but that is what they claim. The stone trap is interesting. It is a pressure sensor that can be set from the cab. If it senses a stone, the entire floor of the feeder house opens and drops everything on the ground. The head and feeder chain also stop with a brake instantly as well. The reverser is a very slick unit. It can be run forward and backward and it has great power.
The lights at night are very bright and angled quite well in the field. However, on the road there is either something wrong with this combine or New Holland engineers never expected anyone to drive on on the road past dark. The lights seem to angle down and aim at the head and only the head. I couldn't see more than 15 ft in front of me. Good thing I only had a 6 row head or at the 20mph road speed I'm sure I would have smoked a few mail boxes.
Other than that it is a pretty standard combine, in cab adjustments for everything, drop down chopper, separate chaff spreader, you know the drill.
My dislikes.
THE STEERING WHEEL!!! I know, it is a weird thing to complain about, but you are hanging onto it all the time so this has to be right. It is about 35% too big in diameter. It really made turning on the headland a chore. Also in typical New Holland style it is made of a rather coarse rubber which I find makes my hands sore by the end of the day. Same exact steering wheel as on our T7060's.
The boot spills grain when shut off full. This needs to be fixed.
Brakes are not powerful enough to lock up individual wheels. I found a mud hole and didn't have enough braking power to stay on the rows. Granted it has only R1 rubber up front, but still. This combine needs R2 up front for sure. Actually all combines do.
The ear saver on the corn head. It really inhibits your few of the gathering chains of 4 rows. I really don't like this. I understand it is saving ears but it is a menace.
Poly snouts break way to easy.
I guess that is all that annoyed me about the combine.
I don't know much about the New Hollands as we are Gleaner people but didn't know if you noticed this write up about a farmer that tested a New Holland 9040 in corn. Sounds like you will be OK pushing those heads with a 9040. Here's what the farmer wrote about his experience. He did a great job giving all positives and negatives.
Ok here goes.
The combine has capacity coming out the who knows what. WOW. I've never harvested corn above 5mph before, let alone 8mph. At 8mph the engine load was only 75%. Unloading on the go at 6.6mph the engine load was 91%. The combine certainly has power.
The cab is extremely spacious. Like lay down and take a nap behind the seat spacious. The controls are extremely well laid out and very easy to figure out. This is a very employee operator friendly combine. The computer screen is very colorful and with a bit of training of the eyes very easy to figure out what you need to know. There are 6 pages of fully customizable information for you to browse while harvesting. The window into the grain tank gives you a good view of the grain up to a half hopper full. The control stick I found a bit awkward at first but after a few hours if felt right. I'm not too fussy about the resume button for the auto header height and used manual controls much of the time.
The unload auger is another highlight of the machine. Its unload height is exceptional and the new 2008 boot is much better at funneling the grain in a controlled manner. The grain saver trap door at the end of the auger does a good job holding back the grain if the auger is nearly empty. When the auger is full it does a TERRIBLE JOB.
The engine compartment features a wide open design that seems to work very well for New Holland. With no sheet metal to catch residue everything stayed very clean with no build up of any kind. The oils are all side by side for very easy morning maintenance and the fuel tank is right at the top of the ladder.
The rear access ladder in my opinion is much too steep and I can see climbing it carrying a jug of oil would be a challenge. I guess I'm too used to the ladder on the rear of the 2388.
The grain hopper is very large. 315bu and the filling auger does a very good job at centering the pile. Some combines don't so I consider this a very important feature. The auger and extensions fold down very quickly and easily, though I wish there were a few more foot stands in the hopper to make taking down the corner braces a bit safer. The hopper cleans out very well after unloading so switching crops will not take a great deal of cleanout.
The feeder house is very wide, as wide as the dual rotors so they claim there is no bottle neck as in a single rotor machine funneling the crop down. I don't buy it but that is what they claim. The stone trap is interesting. It is a pressure sensor that can be set from the cab. If it senses a stone, the entire floor of the feeder house opens and drops everything on the ground. The head and feeder chain also stop with a brake instantly as well. The reverser is a very slick unit. It can be run forward and backward and it has great power.
The lights at night are very bright and angled quite well in the field. However, on the road there is either something wrong with this combine or New Holland engineers never expected anyone to drive on on the road past dark. The lights seem to angle down and aim at the head and only the head. I couldn't see more than 15 ft in front of me. Good thing I only had a 6 row head or at the 20mph road speed I'm sure I would have smoked a few mail boxes.
Other than that it is a pretty standard combine, in cab adjustments for everything, drop down chopper, separate chaff spreader, you know the drill.
My dislikes.
THE STEERING WHEEL!!! I know, it is a weird thing to complain about, but you are hanging onto it all the time so this has to be right. It is about 35% too big in diameter. It really made turning on the headland a chore. Also in typical New Holland style it is made of a rather coarse rubber which I find makes my hands sore by the end of the day. Same exact steering wheel as on our T7060's.
The boot spills grain when shut off full. This needs to be fixed.
Brakes are not powerful enough to lock up individual wheels. I found a mud hole and didn't have enough braking power to stay on the rows. Granted it has only R1 rubber up front, but still. This combine needs R2 up front for sure. Actually all combines do.
The ear saver on the corn head. It really inhibits your few of the gathering chains of 4 rows. I really don't like this. I understand it is saving ears but it is a menace.
Poly snouts break way to easy.
I guess that is all that annoyed me about the combine.
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I don't think you will be disappointed with your decision! Not many people run 940/9040s as far as I can tell. Most people I know who run NHs would not go back to green or red!
We've been running a TR97 for around 11 years and we can easily push a 39' HoneyBee.
We're considering a CR9060 within the next few years. Just need the capital to purchase it as we don't have much of a combine to trade on it :\
Keep us informed on your purchase!
We've been running a TR97 for around 11 years and we can easily push a 39' HoneyBee.
We're considering a CR9060 within the next few years. Just need the capital to purchase it as we don't have much of a combine to trade on it :\
Keep us informed on your purchase!
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Cy I think you will be happy with the 9040, the way it was explained to me was that the 940/9040's are basically the same as a TR99, excecpt with the CR upgrades which you are familiar with, the kicker is the cr940 has only 295hp compared to the 280hp the tr99 has, and the CR's are much heavier, so the extra hp is used just to move the combine around.
Did you look at a 9060/960, they have they same rotors and cleaning area, but much more hp.
If you are expecting to get performance similar to a tr99 or 2388, I think you will be happy, don't expect any more as far as performance goes, everything else about the combine is many steps ahead.
Good Luck
Did you look at a 9060/960, they have they same rotors and cleaning area, but much more hp.
If you are expecting to get performance similar to a tr99 or 2388, I think you will be happy, don't expect any more as far as performance goes, everything else about the combine is many steps ahead.
Good Luck
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My family has owned 4 new holland combines and we have loved each one. We started with the newest model tr70, then had a 70 farmer built to be a tr80 followed by an 86? and now a 98 and we love it.
i have heard that the 940 seems like an updated tr99 with the same power / threshing. So what? the combine will do some pretty cool things in the right conditions. just know that twin rotors do not like green or wet crops, as the smaller rotors do not have as much centrivical velocity, slowing the rotors down
Matt
i have heard that the 940 seems like an updated tr99 with the same power / threshing. So what? the combine will do some pretty cool things in the right conditions. just know that twin rotors do not like green or wet crops, as the smaller rotors do not have as much centrivical velocity, slowing the rotors down
Matt
You are all scaring me a bit. We start combing corn at anything under 30% moisture, so there is no time to mess around waiting for dry grain. Salesmen said the smaller rotors should have MORE centrifugal force than a large, single rotor. Actually, the HP on the 9040 is 322, not 295 (maybe that's what the 940 had). We've been running a 2588 the last 2 years, and 2388's before that. I'm hoping I'll be happy with it. The 9060 has roughly 360 hp (don't quote me, not looking at any stats right now). We looked at it, but didn't know if 38 hp and dual returns augers were worth the extra $12,500. Really, that's the only difference.
Yeah, Case combine lost power in the wet stuff, but we could always go. Mainly it's just a problem in the wetter beans, not so much the corn. Corn has never bean a limiting factor for our Case combines, just beans. I don't know. Maybe I should have ponied up for the 9060, but you didn't really gain much (38 hp and dual returns augers) for the price ($12,500). How are the NH combines as far as setting them for the crops (corn/beans)? Easy to set, or not?
Well, after months of waiting, my new 9040 showed up today with it's corn head. 35' platform shows up next week. I must say, what a sharp looking machine. However, the new controls will definitely take some getting used to. Overall, looks sharp, I like many of the features, and I can't wait for fall to try this baby out!
I was a first timer last year of a cx 8070. All I can say Is............Awesome machine. Very operator friendly. Plenty of horsepower. My 2188s give me fits in some crops. The cx just rolls right through with no problem. I know it's a different machine than the cr9040 but I think you'll be pleased. Congrats on your purchase. have fun with it , and tell us what you think when you get her cranked up and movin. I'm startin mine up today.
A lot has been said about your decision. You did the right thing. You also realize the limitation is the horse power. The CR's are a lot heavier than the TR's or the 2388's. Fuel consumption is a consideration too. The Genesis Engine in the TR-98 and TR-99's is hard to beat power and fuel wise.
I have owned and operated the NH combines since '78. I would NEVER go back to anything else. I have experience w/ the CR940 too. The hp is not an issue in wheat country, but it can be in corn and soybeans. These green stem soybeans take extra power to get thru.
You are on the right track!! Enjoy it!!!
I have owned and operated the NH combines since '78. I would NEVER go back to anything else. I have experience w/ the CR940 too. The hp is not an issue in wheat country, but it can be in corn and soybeans. These green stem soybeans take extra power to get thru.
You are on the right track!! Enjoy it!!!
Platform showed up last week. Looks good. Some things are a little cheap conpared to Case, but otherwise a good looking header. I'm hoping horsepower won't be an issue. 9040 has more horsepower than a 940. We'll find out how she handles wet corn this year for sure. Later planting dates due to weather and definitely a wet growing season, so no early dry-down is predicted. I'm hoping by the second or third week of September we'll be going. That'll be the time to find out how it like mid to upper 20% corn.
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you can always chip it to a 9060 if need be too, if you find you don't have enough power.
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