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Grain millers Yorkton to stop buying oats dessicated with glyphosate
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not surprising.... too bad bc pre harvest glyphosate is a very powerful weed control and harvest management tool.... but you do have to look at it from a consumer side too - it is a chemical (no matter how safe) being applied to their food only days before it is harvested and stored.
this is definitely a cautionary tale to all those out there either a) applying more than the 360g/ ac ai in a pre harvest application or b)using improper staging and pre harvest intervals either can result in a sample exceeding maximum residue limits established by international buyers. glyphosate has a high enough active ingredient rate that it is REALLY easy to detect in lab testing. Oddly, because it is systematic it is actually applying when the crop is too early (green) that there is a higher risk of elevated glyphosate levels being detected in the seed than applying only a day or two before harvest.
this is definitely a cautionary tale to all those out there either a) applying more than the 360g/ ac ai in a pre harvest application or b)using improper staging and pre harvest intervals either can result in a sample exceeding maximum residue limits established by international buyers. glyphosate has a high enough active ingredient rate that it is REALLY easy to detect in lab testing. Oddly, because it is systematic it is actually applying when the crop is too early (green) that there is a higher risk of elevated glyphosate levels being detected in the seed than applying only a day or two before harvest.
Years ago preharvest RU was used for weed control for stuff like quackgrass and Canadian thistle. But the last what 5-10 years farms with lots of acres to get off in the fall in climates/areas that are not always favorable to straight cutting seem to more and more just spray everything now a days. Maybe this will be coming to an .... end.
What about forages as many spray their hay fields out then bale it up and sell the hay!
What about forages as many spray their hay fields out then bale it up and sell the hay!
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People, don't eat hay though.
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I dunno. I grow oats. I straight cut. I have never pre-harvested them, or felt I needed to. Maybe I have more patience??? And this is in the wet zone where theoretically drydown aid is needed. It is kind of like fungicides now days. Guys just do it, pencil it in regardless of need sometimes.
I guess the ban on the practice will affect some, but not me personally. Yes, I have perennial weed clean land, and no, I am not organic or against the practice of pre harvest.
I guess the ban on the practice will affect some, but not me personally. Yes, I have perennial weed clean land, and no, I am not organic or against the practice of pre harvest.
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Too bad if we lose the per harvest option. Nothing better on thistle and quack. I still swath everything. No real need for a crop hurry upper. However, the odd time I do get some done so it would be a shame to lose that option. Post harvest is not always possible.
I understand it is a milling problem with their mill. I haven't herd any other mill complaining. Maybe CIGI should take them into Winnipeg and show them what the other mills are doing or what they can do to rectify their problem.
Unless all the other mills are having issues and haven't came forward, in that case it should have never been registered for use on oats. Someone is not doing their job in any case and farmers are going to pay.
Unless all the other mills are having issues and haven't came forward, in that case it should have never been registered for use on oats. Someone is not doing their job in any case and farmers are going to pay.
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From an email it sounded like General Mill's isn't accepting oats that have been pre-harvest either.
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Well I'm with Uthinkyou'rewet, any such ban aint gonna effect me, actually guess for us who don't desiccate it will be benefit. I guess if you need to depend on gysophate to harvest your oats, time to switch to something else and leave the growing oats to those of us who don't. Like it or not, it's over use and dependency that is ruining it for all, chemicals for our crops and antibiotics for our animals. I've grown oats for years and have never had the need to desiccate them. Leave them stand till ready to combine. Suppose in a longer growing season the frosts wouldn't take care of them as they do here, but then one begins to ask, if you have a longer warmer season, why are you growing oats in the first place? Isn't there crops that grow in those conditions that pay better?
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Yes it seems large operations just spray all summer, mostly to justify a $400000 sprayer. 
We leave standing and swath, combine usually same time as sprayed crops.We do post harvest and do not have a weed problem. The proper rates and timing are hit and miss, so therefore residue in our food. Also we eat the beef that eats the Roundup...is that okay? :hits-the-fan:
We leave standing and swath, combine usually same time as sprayed crops.We do post harvest and do not have a weed problem. The proper rates and timing are hit and miss, so therefore residue in our food. Also we eat the beef that eats the Roundup...is that okay? :hits-the-fan:
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I really have to laugh at uninformed people who say proper timing and rates are hit and miss at preharvest time. Why is it so hard to maintain proper rates??? Unless you are totally organic and don't own a sprayer, don't come on here and bash the people that do.
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If this thread turns into a flame war I will lock it.
Keep your panties on, don't insult other members with a differing viewpoint.
Thanks.
As far as the original topic... Grain Millers says spraying is happening at inappropriate times which is causing the groats to fracture in the milling process... this makes them worthless as rolled oats.
They also state the timing is an "unfortunate co-incidence" referring to the UN report.
Keep your panties on, don't insult other members with a differing viewpoint.
Thanks.
As far as the original topic... Grain Millers says spraying is happening at inappropriate times which is causing the groats to fracture in the milling process... this makes them worthless as rolled oats.
They also state the timing is an "unfortunate co-incidence" referring to the UN report.
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I have to wear panties?
Wow, I gotta go shoppin!
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I reread the article 3 times, no where did it say it was a timing thing, but if it was used at all. Are you guys referring to another source of info?
I really don't think it will be far off that pre harvest is frowned upon. The Asian market (the guys with the big bucks) are already looking at not importing pre harvest glyph, at discover able levels. I don't know how this will be managed, producer declaration maybe, or premiums for not spraying.
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