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My dad and I finally are going to bite the bullet and bury our old 860 Massey. Been a great combine but things are wearing out that really shouldn't (or can't) be replaced. I am semi color blind. Most of our equipment is green, however I have a few friends who swear by their red cement mixers ( all big farmers). I looked a new Case IH over a little but really don't know what I'm looking at (only know walker machines). We farm 1500 acres (corn, wheat soys). Don't think I can afford new but would like a machine with 1000 hrs or less. Can anyone give me a little advice? Especially those of you who have had both JD and Case? What machine would you recommend?
 

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we currently have two 850 massey's and are about in the same sitution. i bought a 2388 last year and it is a great machine! If I were you I would definitly look at a rotor machine. the only bad part about it is there is a lot of electrical stuff on it that the massey's dont have. so they aren't quite as easy to work on. I know what you mean the massey's are great combines, but the parts are getting harder and harder to find! good luck!

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agb, where about are you located? Finding a combine for this harvest may be difficult. I do know there is a couple of the larger dealers in Alberta have some used machines around, Not sure of price or hours. PM me for more details if you like.

Oh and welcome to the forum
 

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I am located in Michigan and I wasn't thinking about this year. I think we can keep the old girl toghether to get through soys and corn but she doesn't have much more time in the field (been a great combine though).
 

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I have two neighbors that have 2388's and one that just bought an 810 (I think that's the # IH's biggest combine) anyway everyone seems to like them even thoguh we are mostly JD on this farm. Did you buy your 2388 new?
 

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depends on parts availability. if it s similar I would go for 8010 05 or 06. 08 machines has excellent chopper. and 06 has PRO 600 color monitor. 05 should have good price and it is bugs free. JD STS didnt impressed but .... we have different conditions
 

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I don't know, your conditions can't be much different than mine can they? I'm also pretty sure that I don't need, nor can I afford the 8010. We only have 1500 acres (even though I'd like to expand a touch as soon as I retire from my day job). 2388 is alot more combine than I need also but I'd sure like one (or a similiar JD)
 

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If I might ask, what was the difference in price from the one you bought and a new one? Was there any warranty?
 

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I don't know, your conditions can't be much different than mine can they? I'm also pretty sure that I don't need, nor can I afford the 8010. We only have 1500 acres (even though I'd like to expand a touch as soon as I retire from my day job). 2388 is alot more combine than I need also but I'd sure like one (or a similiar JD)
1500 ac is about 750ha is int it? So in Lithuania we have 10 days to harvest it. in our whet conditions and yields more then 5-8t/ha I would need 2-AF2388 or 1 AFX8010+some small combine to work around a fences and posts. I mean if I'm able to doe it in 10 days I'm able to get crop in perfect condition
 

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i bought mine privately from a neighbor who i am farming for. no there is any warranty left on it, i think im paying about, 125, 000 for it, a new 2588 today would probably cost over 200,000.
 

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sound's to me what it really comes down to is dealer support. A deere and a case would both be good machines. You said you dont know much about rotors than how bout a walker machine.
 

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Sounds to me that walkers are all but done. I plan on farming another 30 years so I might as well learn now (at least that's my logic). I was talking to the dealer that sold me a viber shank last year and he told me about a 2588 demo he has, a 2577 that is coming in this fall and a 2388 that a guy will be trading in with about 900 hrs. Have not talked price yet. He did point out the fact that JD is a rotor wannabe and that the CIH has 75% less moving parts than the deere. I can't really substantiate any of this stuff (it's why I joined this forum-I'd rather talk to farmers).
 

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You know $75000 for 500 hrs seems like the way to go especially if you know who owned the machine.
 

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yeah only 500 hrs it's just getting broken in! im sure if you went to a dealer you couldn't find one for that price so i think i got a pretty good deal on it. good luck on finding one!

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I'm a fan of the 2100 series and up red machines. A lot of the parts are interchangable, and upgrades that came along later can usually be retrofitted to oldefr machines. 1400 and 1600 machines are good, just not as interchangable, and not as upgradable.
The 2577 and 2588 the dealer is demo'ing would be hard to tell apart next to a 2188.

A rotary machine is much different from a walker machine. Most of the work in a rotary machine should be done in the rotor, and the cleaning system takes care of the finidhing touches.
 

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We traded our 1997 2188 in on a 2005 AFX 8010 last fall. Best thing we ever did the 2188 was just getting to old and was starting to cost alot in maint. It had 3200 hrs on it. Our 8010 had 750 hrs on it. Also we only are farming 1,200-1,500 acres right now. Its nice to get done quick. I mean this year was the fastest we ever got done our wheat crop. The last 3 years we had to rent another 2188 or 8010 to get done and were late.
 

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We just got started with our '06 2388. I would recommend one of the '03 or newer models with afx rotor in it as they do perform better in tough conditions. Very simple machine that is easy to service.
 

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i think if i were you i would go with a red machine no matter what model it is, cause case ih has had the same concept on these rotor machines for 30 plus years now and have got a good reputation for be bullet proof machine.
 
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