[V876]

I have seen a few Massey 9220/9420 swathers for sale with low hours any fairly low asking price compared to similar year competitors. Are there issues with these machines that cause the lower prices or are they worth looking at. Thanks

 

[cnh007]

Had many hesstons in our time, they have a great tractor unit, but the header is junk IMO,weak roller bearings , ****ty reel drive and a few other issues as well

 

[V876]

Had many hesstons in our time, they have a great tractor unit, but the header is junk IMO,weak roller bearings , ****ty reel drive and a few other issues as well

Thanks. The ones I have seen have the 5200 header and have the Schumacher knife drive and looked ok but I will have to look closer at the reel drive canvass rollers.

 

[flangemaster]

I'm looking to buy a 14 ft hay head from a hesston 8450. Will it fit on my 9220 Massey with same mounts and hydraulics?

 

[ry0972]

The tractor units have been great machines since back in the late 90's.
The Case-IH 8860/8860HP/8870 and large frame Hesston units were far ahead of any others at the time.
The newer Hesston/Massey/Challenger have power hub drives instead of chain legs.
The large cab is about the best on the Hesston/Challenger and now the newer Massey as well.
The current 5200 headers are pretty good.
I think they took the "few" good parts that were on the old massey 220 and CI headers and put them on a beefed up Macdon 960/972 frame and then put the Schumacher knife drive on to make a very decent header.
I would like if they had a set of inboard guage wheels like the AGCO 5100 combine headers have as well as the end wheel setup that is on now.
There is a collar that makes the reel drive a lot better, Haven't had any trouble with 500 hours cutting some very heavy canola with our 36' .
There are heavier/updated mounts for the canvas rollers as well, also I use a grease injector needle on any new canvas bearings I install and they last many seasons after.
The originals I believe got water in behind them when new sitting with the canvases off.
We switched over to the Schumacher/Honey Bee knife and guards so all swathers and headers would be the same. The kit was from AGCO and was much cheaper than from jobber or Honey Bee dealers at the time.
Considering that a used Hesston will usually sell for less than a same year/hour/condition Macdon/Case/Deere I think they are a good value.
I am not sure how it would compare if buying new machines??

 

[V876]

The tractor units have been great machines since back in the late 90's.
The Case-IH 8860/8860HP/8870 and large frame Hesston units were far ahead of any others at the time.
The newer Hesston/Massey/Challenger have power hub drives instead of chain legs.
The large cab is about the best on the Hesston/Challenger and now the newer Massey as well.
The current 5200 headers are pretty good.
I think they took the "few" good parts that were on the old massey 220 and CI headers and put them on a beefed up Macdon 960/972 frame and then put the Schumacher knife drive on to make a very decent header.
I would like if they had a set of inboard guage wheels like the AGCO 5100 combine headers have as well as the end wheel setup that is on now.
There is a collar that makes the reel drive a lot better, Haven't had any trouble with 500 hours cutting some very heavy canola with our 36' .
There are heavier/updated mounts for the canvas rollers as well, also I use a grease injector needle on any new canvas bearings I install and they last many seasons after.
The originals I believe got water in behind them when new sitting with the canvases off.
We switched over to the Schumacher/Honey Bee knife and guards so all swathers and headers would be the same. The kit was from AGCO and was much cheaper than from jobber or Honey Bee dealers at the time.
Considering that a used Hesston will usually sell for lass than a same year/hour/condition Macdon/Case/Deere I think they are a good value.
I am not sure how it would compare if buying new machines??

Thanks lots of good info. Are the collar for the reel drive and roller drive mounts updates that the 5200 header has over previous models or updates for the 5200?

 

[ry0972]

The reel collars came out in 2009 I think.
Not sure if all headers since then have them or if it is something that gets installed if you have problems breaking the roll pin/bolt assembly that drives the pickup reel.
It may only be on UII reel equipped headers ??
The roller mount/tighteners were built heavier after 2009 or so.
Also if you look at a 5200 header with the optional pivoting type gauge wheels check and see that they are assembled correctly.
Lots of them were put together with the trailing arm/spindle part upside down so the main leg had to be farther down(out of the tube in the header) and could/would catch the ground in uneven ground as well as dragging swath around.
To fix you just take the pivot pins out and swap the trailing arm and wheels from one side to the other of the header, turn it over and put pin back in.
This will now have the tire facing out from the header.