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Hey guy's trying to work a deal for a 99 220 swather with the trade of my NH 499 2003 haybine. the reel is kind of beat but the dealer said they would fix it all.

its a 25 foot anything I should look for?
 

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Try to get a hart carter reel on it. UII reels are not the greatest. Rest of swather is not bad at all. Cheap on fuel.
Thanks it's at a massey dealer so im sure they will use mf parts.(but I will ask for carter)
it had a mower cond on it for more then half the hours they claim. and the reel looks like they played how many fence posts can we hit in 600 hours. So I really wana give it a good going over. My way of thinking is if it has so few hours on the swather head and it looks way worse then my 74 versitile with a million hours how well did they take care of it.
The reel actually I think is bent cause it hits the left side of the table and has worn the reel down. but a new reel will fix that im sure.
the chassis itself looks to be in good shape but I did not know if these had any common weak or problem areas.

They want 26 grand for it so for that much I need to make sure its top notch im young just starting out and its a big investment for me and my wife. we already bought the 1660 combine from my parents this year.
 

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Pull the bung on the power wheels and make sure there isn't too many metal filings. Those power wheels can blow up and it's a $3500 fix. Better yet if they are okay change the oil. The 220 is a decent machine but these power wheels are a ticking time bomb if the wheels are spun in mud. I think if you operate it accordingly and don't jerk it around on the headlands you should be fine.
 

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the dealer already did a complete fluid exchange on the 220 so I doubt I will find anything even if it is starting to go......And do you guys think the price is in the ball park? I have not found many 25 foot swathers this year and the ones I did are beat rode hard and put away wet is what i would say.

And priced accordingly 18 thousand to 14 but I do not want and can not afford some other guys problem child. they want 26 grand for the 220 at the dealer with a new reel.

I also looked at a case this morning and made a thread in the case section explaining the difference in the two machine's.

Thanks for the help guys
 

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Thanks it's at a massey dealer so im sure they will use mf parts.(but I will ask for carter)
it had a mower cond on it for more then half the hours they claim. and the reel looks like they played how many fence posts can we hit in 600 hours. So I really wana give it a good going over. My way of thinking is if it has so few hours on the swather head and it looks way worse then my 74 versitile with a million hours how well did they take care of it.
The reel actually I think is bent cause it hits the left side of the table and has worn the reel down. but a new reel will fix that im sure.
the chassis itself looks to be in good shape but I did not know if these had any common weak or problem areas.

They want 26 grand for it so for that much I need to make sure its top notch im young just starting out and its a big investment for me and my wife. we already bought the 1660 combine from my parents this year.
Look to see if the hydraulic cylinders that lift the reel are OK. If it lets one side down enough to hit the table you have a problem there. My 330 versatile will do that if I'm not watching close.
 

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thank you dutchdeutz.

I taked him down to 24 500 and they would fix anything for the next 150 hours or 4 months.

good thing the A/C went out half way home so I took it back the compressor went.
so now they can deliver it and the header when it is fixed.
 

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Pull the bung on the power wheels and make sure there isn't too many metal filings. Those power wheels can blow up and it's a $3500 fix. Better yet if they are okay change the oil. The 220 is a decent machine but these power wheels are a ticking time bomb if the wheels are spun in mud. I think if you operate it accordingly and don't jerk it around on the headlands you should be fine.

Hey I just checked them on my '98 220 massey swather and my left one has some very fine filings stuck to the magnet on the plug! Wiped it on the tire and it looks like that grey anti sieze paste. The right side is fine nothing on that plug. I bought it last fall and changed fuilds when I got. This left side was dirtier with those grey filings, not a lot but something. So I took a look here today before I was going to go out swathing and noticed it again. It has 978 hrs on it now.

What goes out of them? As this materail looks more like the housing material rather then gear or bearing materail. Do the bearing wear causing play, then wrecking stuff??

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Hey I just checked them on my '98 220 massey swather and my left one has some very fine filings stuck to the magnet on the plug! Wiped it on the tire and it looks like that grey anti sieze paste. The right side is fine nothing on that plug. I bought it last fall and changed fuilds when I got. This left side was dirtier with those grey filings, not a lot but something. So I took a look here today before I was going to go out swathing and noticed it again. It has 978 hrs on it now.

What goes out of them? As this materail looks more like the housing material rather then gear or bearing materail. Do the bearing wear causing play, then wrecking stuff??

thx
There is a big sun gear in there with bearings on each gear. I had them break and destruct the whole thing chipping out the spline of the outer housing. Thing is parts to fix these things is stupid. The sun gear is $1500 if you are lucky to only wreck it but usually it all goes when it does. Mine didn't have too many more hours than yours when I bought it and the power wheel went. Change the oil and hope for the best. If you have the time jack it up and take it off and take it apart and check it out. You may save yourself some money. Last year I had the bracket that holds the wheel to the swather frame break off. The power wheel was leaking and the parts guys said it was hooped but I took apart to find everything was fine and it didn't leak after reassembly.

I think a guy should keep a spare on hand. Big bucks to keep in parts but these things get rare around harvest time.
 

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Well i was a bit paranoid of having something go wrong 10 miles from home with the drive so I took it apart this morning. I couldn't see nothing wrong and overall I don't think the oil was as dirty as last fall when I had bought it. You can see on the pics the stuff that was on the magnet that I wiped on the tire. Inside the housing there was nothing much to speak of.


On the hub/wheel bearings is there supposed to be a preload or something on there or just snug?? Looks like you may have to unbolt the housing and they must be adusted from the back side of this. If you push hard you can see a tiny bit of play/back lash on those bearings but other wise I can't see anything
 

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Brings back memories! Speaking of memories, I'm going through my fuzzy one and seem to recall the drive is made by auburn gear. You may be able to search a dealer and buy that sun gear for around 1/4 price. I did this a number of years ago
 
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